• xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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    I remember seeing a video posted fairly early on, showing a award ceremony where an LDR/DPR fighter was given medal for “his contributions to denazification”. Both him and his commander was smugly smirking at each other. But what really tore it? The guy being awarded the medal was wearing shoulder patches featuring a Totenkopf and a Valknut.

    I’ve lost count of the number of photos from Wagner Group youth camps featuring Nazi iconography. Never mind people like Dmitry Utkin and his tattoos.

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    To Russians, ‘Nazi’ is not a political ideology or a party, it’s simply “Whoever is against Russia right now”. Are you against Russia? You’re a Nazi, it’s as simple as that. If they had to contend with the idea that Nazism is a political ideology, they’d have to start calling themselves Nazis, which doesn’t work in the Russian psyche.

    So, when Russians say that Ukrainians are Nazis, what they really mean is “Ukrainians are fighting back when we kill their children. That makes them enemies and therefore Nazis”

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      The honesty of Nazis is a peculiar thing. In Sweden, the far-right party that the government collaborates with, who were started by literal ex-SS nazis and neo-nazis, have celebrated other ex-SS nazis, have worn swaztikas and so on. They have this “sociologist” guy whose argument for this party not being nazis anymore is basically “Look at Golden Dawn and other nazi organizations, they are open about them being nazis. Nazis are honest about being nazis. That is why the Sweden Democrats cannot be nazis, because if they were, they’d be open about it”.

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        Which is fucking stupid because the Nazis initially weren’t honest about being Nazis. There’s a reason they called it National Socialism and not National Killjews-ism.

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          And every dumb fuck magat clings to that National Socialist name, unable to read any more about how right wing Nazis are.

          They’re the Reich wing for a reason.

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              And north Korea is a democracy as in Democratic People’s Republic of Korea sure Thing buddy. Just because someone says je is something doesnt mean He is that Thing :) they can LIE

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                  Literally no one here is talking about socialism being left wing but you. We all know it is, but the Nazis used the name to hide the fact they were actually far right wing. Any questions?

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                  Are you saying the US is left wing? Because they have a lot of socialist policies.

                  Are you saying the US army is left wing? Because they have a complete socialist structure.

                  The meaning of left and right wing were lost long ago.

                  Right: Supporters of the old order, the monarchy, and aristocracy.

                  Left: Supporters of the revolution, republicanism, and secularism, who wanted to change the existing system.

                  From the original definition the whole world is pretty much left unless they are ruled by a aristocracy or a monarch.

                  Of course you could also argue most Democracies are in name only and the wealthy still call all the shots. So that would mean the whole world is really right.

                  I think this highlights how useless these words have become even without the extreme polarization they have in places like the US.

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    Tbf to Russia, during “operation gladio” the CIA funded ultra far right nationalist paramilitaries all across Europe which they paid for by running the heroine game out of Myanmar in collusion with the sicilian mob. It’s the main reason for the rise of the far right all across Europe.

    To be real with Russia, the idea that they could de-nazify another country when they couldn’t even do it to themselves is a sick joke. However, the best lies have a grain of truth to them.

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    Why is the governing party of Ukraine centre while Russia is far-right.

    Not to mention how the little country treats queer people way better.

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    russia DIDN’T realize that ukraine’s president is a jewish person named volodymyrr zelensky (which is fine, there’s NOTHING wrong with being a jewish person). seriously!

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    Because the Nazi ideology is no globalistic in the sense that Russians can think they are the “master race” and Ukrainians can think that they are the “master race”.

    That said, “fighting again Nazis” is just Russian propaganda.

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    Just to play with the idea: a Russian victory puts them closer to having to fight them themselves.

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    There are nazis in russia as well as ukraine, the nazis in ukraine are formally intergrated into the ukranian military. There’s are nazis in basically any country you can think of.

    plenty of neo nazis around the world have traveled to ukraine to get combat experience, I hope a lot of them die 🍻

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    The absolute shortsightedness of the governments trying to push us all into a new war will be their undoing

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      What new war? The 4 year old war Ukraine is fighting on behalf of the democratic world?