• njm1314@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      It’s probably more accurate to say you cannot have actual communism without democracy.

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        7 hours ago

        Sure, and history proves that socialist systems run by communists have brought massive democratization to their societies because of the structures they implemented.

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      8 hours ago

      I absolutely agree. Have we ever seen that in the wild though especially at scale?

      It may be in fact mutually exclusive in that it may conflict with human nature and most cultures. US is of couse extremely individualistic for example though not uniformly so.

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        Yes, every socialist state in history has been ruled by the majority, by the working classes. “Human nature” has nothing to do with it, what is “human nature” is really just the way our environment shapes us, including how we produce and distribute. This is why we can say there is “proletarian ideology,” as working for a living shapes our ideas and how we think of the world.