So, considering this is Lemmy I’ll clarify. I’m not talking about your neighbor who voted for Trump or your uncle who’s always been a dick. I’m talking about coming in contact with a deep down evil scary human. I’ve only met one that I can think of. When I was 12 or 13 I spent a ton of time at my best friends house. He lived on a big beautiful rural property with his dad, a few brothers and always one or two random dudes. His dad was a good electrician and a biker. So, he always had friends/associates hanging around. So one day I was staying over for a long weekend and we met a new guy his dad was housing for a week or two. Dude was a real full fledged nazi. Had a swastika under his eye and tats all over most of his body. He was from California I guess. He was “working” with my buddies dad for awhile. Anyway, the main interaction I had with him was when he pulled my friend and I in for a sermon. We were going to go hunt squirrels and do rural kid shit. He stopped us outside and had us sit on the porch. Spent about 20 minutes explaining all the things youd imagine a nazi explains. Moslty about catholics, jews and blacks. My friends dad came out after awhile and told him we didn’t need to hear that shit. He sent us away, but, I never forgot the look this dude had in his eyes. It was like the look of complete bordem mixed with extreme anger all the time.
Why did you say “not your neighbor who voted for Trump” and then provide an example who absolutely [would have] voted for Trump?
OP is saying voting for Trump is insufficient to qualify as an example. However, it’s not disqualifying.
Idiots and people with lead poisoning aren’t inherently evil. They’re just fucking stupid.
Voting for Trump is not adequately explained by stupidity.
Malicious ignornace is malicious. Hell, ignorance implies access to information and refusal to engage with it. Ignorance is malicious.
Not sure why people try to justify shitty people, just accept that theyre shitty and move on, no need for labels. Do you really need to know the difference between hitler and your local catholic priest, or do you need to know theyre both dangers to society and should be treated as such?
hold on now, let’s not conflate “ignorance” with “willful ignorance”
having access to information and refusing to use it is clearly terrible and a clear sign of some unhealthy mindset, but being ignorant about something doesn’t automatically mean that ignorance was sought out or valued
for example, I would say I am ignorant about more things than not by sheer quantity of information in the world, but I would be glad to learn if presented the opportunity, that doesn’t make me any less ignorant
there’s nothing wrong with being ignorant, only with trying to stay ignorant
Well, I get along well with my catholic priest. In fact the church is the reason we had heating oil two winters growing up and the food bank kept us from missing meals.
My condolences
Edit:/jk, see below
if thats how you feel about catholic priests helping someone not starve or freeze id hate to hear your opinions on muslims or jews. good lord
Aight, thats on me i suppose. I figured my tone combined with the absurd reductionism of his statement wouldve indicated joking sarcasm, but I may have made an error in judgement. Ill add a /jk
It doesnt seem like it needs to be said that charity is good. But for one, the implication I was making was referring to child molestation, which is well documented amongst the group i refered to. Hence why I made a reductionist joke about the phrasing of their words.
For two, it would seem to me that the important thing there would be the charity, not specifically that it came from a catholic priest. Would that same charity from a local charity, organization, or individual not carry the same weight? Hence it seems quite pointless to bring up that priests do charity. So do a lot of other people. Its not their entire job either. The distinction lies in the fact that other charity groups arent known to engage in child molestation, nor have a systemic issues with covering up and protecting child molestors.
I’ll just make some statements and I’d bet we find common ground.
Catholic priests who molest children should be castrated then killed, as with any pedophile. Full stop.
The catholic church is the largest charitable organization in the world and has done a tremendous amount of good. They operate thousands of schools, hospitals and care facilities without incident.
Anyone who assisted in silencing victims or maneuvering offenders should lose whatever position they have and potentially be castrated and killed depending on circumstance.
Instances of horrific abuse (not strictly molestation) happen in MOST institutions at some point, especially ones that involve all ages. These should never be ignored.
I’ve never met a Catholic or general person who agreed with how the greater organization handled cases of abuse. It’s a horrible stain on an already stained institution and I hate that for everyone.
Well, all my uncles are dead. I figured having a dickhead uncle would resonate with some people.