Democratic Leadership: Hold my beer
Don’t worry, the Democratic establishment will figure out a way to quickly fuck this up before the midterm elections.
I’m sure they will choose a panel of milquetoast corporate centrist neo-liberal fuck wads for the people to choose from and again blame it on voter apathy. add a little corporate campaign, finance rule, bending to funnel the most amount of money towards their desired candidate and you have the classic recipe for “ Why do Democrats always lose elections?”
It is so much easier and so much more profitable to be the minority party of opposition to evil. You don’t need exciting new ideas, just exciting “back to normal” ideas. …and even “normal” can be made progressively shittier every cycle.
The rich and powerful can handpick their favorite candidates, negotiate a few table scraps in the direction of normal that they’re willing to accept, and call it a win. The campaign industrial complex gets to make a shit load of money.
Most importantly, their ultimate campaign slogan is “Vote for me, or else evil wins.” Easy money all around.
Then when nothing good happens during a Democrats’s turn, they can blame Democrats and then the Republicans they handpick get to ratchet things back in the rich’s direction again.
Or they’ll make some catastrophic legislative or otherwise strategic error on purpose to make sure the Republicans are on even ground. There’s always a Parliamentarian or a “Blue Slip Rule” to help the Democrats steal defeat from the jaws of victory!
Yeah, Democrats do stuff like that on “purpose”, sure that makes sense.
The Blue Slip Rule is not even a law, it’s “unofficial Senate tradition” that cost us a Supreme Court justice. The Democrats repeatedly shelf progressive legislation like student debt relief due to the advice of the Parliamentarian, an unelected appointee who the Republican have regularly fired when their opinion differs from the party’s legislative agenda. I could go on and on, volumes have been written on the phenomenon. How many individual occurrences of this need to happen before it forms the clear composite image of collaboration?
So fucking tired of people blaming the “establishment”.
The “establishment” didn’t give us Trump 2. Short-sighted, immature potential Democratic voters did.
How do you figure?
The establishment literally was Biden not bowing out after his 1st term, as he’d promised.
The establishment was not giving voters a choice in picking a candidate, and rather anointing Kamala Harris.
The establishment was having Harris run one of the worst campaigns in modern history with the largest war-chest (over $1.5B) at her disposal.
The establishment was setting up a candidate to lose, because they don’t care about winning; they care about maintaining the status quo.
The establishment is absolutely why we got Trump 2.0. How do you not see that?
Sadly the two party is the usa are treated as cults
Because “the establishment” doesn’t get a ballot. The people do.
People. Voted. For. That. Thing.
There’s a fair bit of evidence that the GOP tried to steal the election in 2020 and succeeded in 2024.
Sure. But I’ve seen enough red hats, and pickup trucks or front porches with flags to know people voted for this misery. It’s not impossible that MAGA cheated; dishonesty is in their nature - it’s actually “cheating” to say one thing and do another. However I don’t believe that they needed to cheat very hard.
I think the vote was pretty close, and that your country is just full of horrible people.
Pay attention. I dunno about your area, but those trump flags and maga hats have all but disappeared where I live. They’re being squeezed as well, and some will break ranks.
Next headline, in November: “Unexpected last-minute swing to GOP.”
And the obvious conclusion will never be drawn.
The Republicans can’t be trounced, because they control the active implementation of the oligarchs plans. They either directly implement them if in power, or they signal those directives to the Democrats, who continue to implement the same plans, but in a passive way. They work in concert in this manner, but they must be continually seen to be in a legitimate contest for the ploy to work.
So Shittler will say elections are stolen and illegal when the midterms roll around and maga gets tossed to the curb? And then what?
Really, though, it says a lot about how shitty the democratic party is that the headline says “since 2018” instead of “since the beginning of time”. Trump is a disgusting, rancorous idiot. Everything about him is vile, from his appearance to his voice to his tiny reptilian brain. The fact that the democrats came in second to this human shitstain strongly suggests that the must have, oh i dunno, badly and repeatedly disappointed the american people.
Maybe they could shit-can their entire leadership and get behind someone like Mamdani. Or just disband and make room for a new party.
How many places besides NYC do you think a candidate like Mamdani can win? And I guess I’m asking for even a single point of data that backs this idea up, vs just a hunch that America secretly wants to get far-left.
We can’t wish a revolution into being, what are the first steps to getting there? How do we unite the people, stop fighting the culture wars so we can fight the class war?
Isn’t the first step just having some further left candidates run in the primaries?
First step is get the lead up to 33, so a left candidate is not just a nuisance.
the first step is abandoning the parties that abandoned the working class decades ago
I think a large proportion of Americans make hate and cruelty a primary consideration of their voting proclivities. It’s less about how bad the Democrats have fucked up and more about how they haven’t fucked up enough to get voters.
1/3 of eligible voters went for Trump. Another 1/3 went for Harris. The remaining 1/3 pretty much checked out. Outside of hate and cruelty, is the biggest problem ignorance or is it apathy? Don’t know, don’t care.
The biggest problem is voters who see no reason to vote, because the parties don’t represent them and don’t deliver what they want.
Meh, I don’t let voters off that easy. If nothing else there have been plenty of primaries where more participation could have helped fix that problem. It’s a two way street.
Same as the first Trump admin. Dude can’t govern, and people will respond to that. Except this time he’s ethnically cleansing rather than just doing covid wrong.
Everyone in the US better hope dems can field a candidate through their fucked up primary system that’s gonna be young and re-electable. It’s gonna take at least 8 years to even slightly unfuck this mess.
8 years… ha ha ha!!! I know you said at least but I’m not sure will ever truly know how much they’ve fucked things up. I’m 55 and I doubt it will be fixed before I die.
And if they don’t put some guardrails with some serious teeth and consequences to fix all of things most politicians generally followed in good faith it’s just gonna happen again. I’m seriously starting to believe the American experiment is over. Late stage capitalism, tribalism, and any appearance of empathy have killed it.
I’m 28 and I doubt it’ll be meaningfully fixed before I die. Shit’s been beyond fucked basically my entire adult life, and just regular fucked since well before that.
Yeah I agree, we’ve been truly fucked since Doge. This might be the end of the experiment, but the empire will limp along for a long time, it’s just how comfortable it is to sit in the maw for us plebs.
Dude you must be young, we’ve been fucked since 9/11
Oh man i wish, I was a teenager and my mom came in and told me and my girlfriend a plane just hit the WTC. We turned on the TV and it was every channel. Watched the second plane hit.
Well that’s just depressing. I mean true but still depressing.
Seems unlikely but goddamn do I hope fukkin so
Since the last time they forgot they made the same mistake.
The only Congresional poll that matters is the one next November, and Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure that they can still control Congress, even if the Majority of voters don’t want them to.
Not true at all. Every well-conducted and reliable poll matters, because it determines where campaign money will be spent, where volunteers will be directed, what stops candidates make, and what issues to press on and which to pivot back to stump on.
Pretty dumb myopic take you have there, actually.
No, I think it’s the only correct take. Otherwise people get complacent. I don’t give a shit if the Democrats’ margin is large, it needs to be larger next November to counteract Republican ratfuckery. If Democrats are not ignoring this poll and managing this as if they are really 8 points down, they’ve already lost.
I disagree that it’s the only correct take.
The argument is “Data may cause people to behave in ways I don’t want them to, so I will assail the data to guide people to behaviors I do want.”
Like, I can understand and respect your position, but I don’t think it’s the only correct take.
I think that the structure of your argument is also used broadly by many groups to do terrible things. One can debate the merits of fighting fire with fire, but let’s at least do so with complete awareness.
This is the way. People need to show up in overwhelming numbers to the midterms, this time. It’s the only way to effectively counter Trump’s agenda. Democrats need to have the power to not only reverse course on what he’s doing, but also to remove him from office and prosecute every last mutherfucking one of them.
It worked during Bush’s 2nd term when the Senate and the House were blue. The opposition was strong enough to stifle Bush from being too out of control.
The damage may still continue and have been done, but, we need to stifle and slow this nightmare train down somehow. The mid-terms it has to be.
You might be right, but you could be less annoying about it.
Polls influence voting (people are more likely to vote for a perceived winner). And polls are easier to cook than elections.
None of that matters when they rig the results.
Pretty dumb and naive take YOU have here, actually
In a sane world, Dems should be leading by high double-digits, but alas.
Americans aren’t sane
There’s another article about 6 in 10 saying the country is seriously off track. It’s hard to figure out the voter that says this and then is unsure who to vote for, but somehow that ends up with 8% saying “I don’t know”.
Which is exactly why the nazis in charge are already undermining elections and have been for years. Building up deniability in the minds of their racist voters to make it easier to control the results if not throw them out entirely.
I remember the poll that had Harris winning Iowa in a landslide that was way off. Polls are shit, just show up and vote
Don’t worry. MAGA will figure out a way to cancel future elections.
Because for almost a year now the DNC has been taking all the money Hillary/Biden/Kamala stole from state parties, back to the state parties.
Who have been using the funds to work at campaign staffing levels we usually only see for a few months before election.
That outreach is working, and no one should be surprised.
It’s just the goal of neoliberlism is a neoliberal president and at most either the House or Senate. If/when they get it all, they have to make up excuses for why they’re not doing what they said they’d do.
It’s like when an athlete bets their team will win, but not beat the spread…
Sometimes they end up losing the game by trying to keep it close. But their motivation isn’t winning games, it’s hitting the sweet spot where they get a bunch of unethical money
they’re the ones that have passed campaign finance regulations, though. You don’t see any Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders on the other side
Until Citizens United is overturned and campaign finance is heavily restricted by Congress, another Democrat administration will simply ratchet themselves further to the right and serve the same oligarchs the Republicans do. Very little will change to improve the lives of ordinary people, and once again the Republicans will use that to take full control in the following cycle.
Which is why CU has never been addressed
Until Citizens United is overturned and campaign finance is heavily restricted by Congress,
No, the party runs their own primaries and they can regulate them however they want.
The DNC and any state parties can get stricter on PACs, which would get a good candidate to the general. Where they wouldn’t be handcuffed by the restrictions in the primary.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, which wouldn’t be a big deal if the misinformation you’re spreading wouldn’t result in lower voter turnout.
They can, but your golden boy has not.
These type of comments remind me how useless progressives are.
They will take that lead and intentionally fuck it up again.
cool just let the fascists carry on then
