So what, are we supposed to ignore reality and hope voters don’t notice? You think that’s a reliable strategy to avoid fascism? That’s not how society works. Brushing Democratic party flaws under the rug doesn’t keep voters from knowing the problems aren’t getting solved. Fascism thrives in the vacuum of Democratic ineffectiveness.

And I wonder if you level the same criticisms when the establishment punches left (which they do far more than punching right). Surrendering to Republican framing on everything from Israel to defunding police to trans issues is what loses elections.

It could be argued that the same is true of the American civil war.

You think the Democrats needed help demotivating their voter? They did that all by themselves. They were never going to be able to coast forever on being “not as bad as that guy”.

Establishment Democrats did everything in their power to keep from being a party capable of inspiring anyone. Even so, the entire grass-roots infrastructure of the Democratic party would crumble without progressive volunteers. We’ve stood by this party through insult after insult and failure after failure.

Even now, with the country in the grasp of full blown fascism, we can’t even get establishment Democrats to reliably back their own fucking nominee for the mayor of NYC. And you think it’s progressive criticism that’s demotivating voters? You are fucking insane.

That’s when they stopped being Marvel movies and started being Disney movies.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition… There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect”.

If you don’t even know the name of the party, I’m really not optimistic about your insights. The party at large has clearly shifted left, even if the old guard hasn’t lost their grip yet. There is a long way to go, and this edgy bullshit is nothing but distraction from the real work.

It’s because to them the only thing that mattered was his in-group status. He was a “great Christian”, not because he followed Jesus, but simply because he identified as such and did it loudly.

That’s why I’m glad to be an old fart. The only thing different for me in 10 years is that I’ll give even fewer fucks.

By AOC or Bernie, are you referring to two people that have done a thousand times more to shift the Overton window left than you and a dozen friends will ever achieve?

I just love all the ineffective edgy leftists constantly telling the only people making progress that they’re doing it wrong.

A small minority of them is rich. A small minority of them is intelligent. The two don’t intersect very often.

I feel more sorry for those kids because they had Charlie Kirk as a father in the first place. I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone that would marry that asshole.

This sucks. I don’t think he was conscious long enough to know that justice has arrived. Thoughts and prayers asshole.

Yeah, Republicans are worse. Got it. However that doesn’t relate at all to your comment that I replied to, or to my reply. In fact, the comment I replied to has nothing to do with my previous comment either.

As bad as Republicans are, never doubt that it’s Democrats who handed them power - over the culture and over the government. Even now, they have learned nothing.

Having a chance to improve things is a Democratic nightmare scenario, and they do everything in their power to make sure they never get that opportunity. But how about today? Today they could endorse the Democratic nominee for mayor of NYC. That has a good chance of improving some things. Or how about Bill Clinton not choosing to dismantle the federal safety net, or Obama choosing to prosecute Wall Street criminals instead of reward them? How about not kneecapping Medicare For All at every opportunity? How about not trying to be Republican lite on immigration or trans rights? How about articulating any kind of vision to compete with Republican hate mongering in the public psyche?

It’s not all about passing legislation. Passing legislation is what happens after you have done all the real work that the Democratic establishment refuses to do.

Don’t equate Democrats with the left. The Democrats also sat on those files for the entire Biden presidency. The whole reason Epstein didn’t sink Trump way back in 2016 is that Democrats were protecting Bill Clinton and almost certainly other powerful figures in the Democrat establishment. Blue MAGA isn’t that different from red.

As president, Bill Clinton benefitted from pretty much the entirety of the Internet boom. He had nothing to do with that great economy, but he did help set the gears in motion for the 2008 mortgage crisis. He also took advantage of the great economy to dismantle or cripple most of the federal safety net programs and kneecap unions.

Yes. Democratic gaslighting is “complete and total fucking lies” too. I was differentiating. Republicans lies offer a narrative and enemies to fight. Democratic lies try to tell people watching the American dream die that it’s all just “progress”. Of the two, Republican lies are way more viral, in more than one way.

People are fed up and looking for answers. Republicans give the wrong answers, while Democrats gaslight about how much progress is being made. When people don’t buy the rather obvious gaslighting, they turn to the only answers being offered.

I dunno about soda, but washing down Oreos with Guinness is fucking amazing.

I obviously grasp the injustice, but I can’t imagine what the basis of a class action would be. If you agree to buy a product for $5 and they supply said product, the courts aren’t going to care if their cost for it was $4 or $2. There is no constitutional right to suppliers with low profit margins.