• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    Saw it Happen on lunch break were they called a matt and 2 Matt’s came up. Then John same thing, then Greg also 2 ppl. Would have funny but use numbers!

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    Why not have numbers? I never understood the need for names in places like this. Fuck you need my name for? What if there’s more than one John in here? Give me a number and call it out when ready… jeez.

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      I work in a place that uses names, if I had to guess it’s probably because it’s more personal. People are bad enough at paying attention to hear their own name, I have very little faith in people responding to a randomly assigned number.

      Also with phone in, online, and door dash et al. it might seem strange to use names for those, which we would need to because the person coming in isn’t going to know what number was assigned to the order and only in the phone in scenario could we communicate that directly (online ordering could tell them but again, people are dumb, they won’t know).

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        I don’t know how it is in the states, but fast food places here give you a small beeper with a number on it, when your order is ready, it beeps/vibrates and you pick your order up. No one shouting names, no overhearing names, no losing attention when a device in your hand starts beeping/vibrating. The number on it serves as a secondary backup. I’ve not been in a place where name giving was required. Different culture I guess.

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      It’s probably supposed to make it more hip and personal. And the frequent complaints about misunderstandings are free marketing.

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    I had an English teacher in middle school who named her son Sean, pronounced like “seen,” and she always complain about how people always pronounced it like “Shawn.”

    Personally, I think it’s a tad rude to name your child with an uncommon spelling as is just setting then up for a lifetime of minor annoyances. But to use a fairly common variant and insist on a non-standard pronunciation is far worse.

    • I have a non-English name and I honestly don’t know what to say when they ask for my name so I just pause for like 3 second then think of a random English name to use lol, cuz I doubt they can read a Pinyin name lol and don’t wanna make it awkward.

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        I placed an order at a restaurant where you have a name for the order, but you also have names for particular food items. The main name was Mario Mario. The food items were various SMB characters. I went to pick up the food in a Boo shirt and Mario baseball cap. I heard them talking about Mario’s last name being Mario and Luigi’s last name being the same. Anyway, I went over to pick up the order, they noticed my clothes, and started laughing. Good times. Anyway, I like using character names.

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      Because people who have no real friends think it’s more “personal” to force a stranger to poorly read their name.

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    Envy: in my native languages every letter means one concrete sound no matter of the word or any other circumstances. I can pronounce correctly any word I see written, and can correctly write down whatever word I hear even if I hear it for the first time and don’t know its meaning.

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      Same (with few exceptions that are well documented and always applicable to every situation)

      But names are still fucked, because they’re not translated. Example:

      • Tomass
      • Tomas
      • Thomas
      • Tuomas

      Or the Shawn/Sean example in the comic

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      I’m envious of that, to be honest. Non-phonetic spelling is one of the greatest barriers to learning a language like English.

      Part of the problem though is what this comic highlights, where English does not often try to adapt names and loanwords to its own phonetics. They are transliterated to the Latin alphabet in ways that make sense for the logic of the source language, and then just carried into English.

      And then it just happens that the history of the English language is characterized by the number of times Britain was invaded by speakers of other languages that just merged into the lexicon, so English is riddled with loanwords that are each informed by the logic of their languages of origin.

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      The Ethiopian alphabet (abougida) has this feature, but it goes one step further. Every vowel consonant pair (aka every syllable) has it’s own symbol. That sounds like a lot of symbols, and it is, but the beauty of it is that the vowel sounds are just modifiers of the consonant. So you only have to memorize the consonant symbols and the modifiers and you can reduce drastically reduce the number of letters needed plus have a completely phonetic writing system.

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      Does your language still have different regional accents or does that end up getting smoothed/averaged out by the writing system?

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        It has. Some regions use local words that aren’t included in official vocabulary plus they love to misplace emphasis (we don’t mark it in written form). Not sure if it can be called “accent” though, more like “dialect”.

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      One of my coworkers is named Sean and I always refer to him as Seen. It is very funny to nobody except for me.

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        22 hours ago

        Is Starbucks the only coffee shop that requires people to speak Italian? (Honest question from someone who’s never had a desire to go to any coffee shop.)

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          Yeah, I’ve been to a lot of cafes, and they all use small, medium, large. Starbucks is just stupid.

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          Unless you count “espresso”, “cappuccino” and “macchiato” as speaking Italian, then yes

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            I guess we can consider those adopted into English vocabulary since we haven’t replaced them with any English words.

            Kinda like résumé and hors d’oeuvre and a million other French words we have in our normal vocabulary.