Ah yes, everyone who defends Palestine are supporters of Hamas no?
Too bad the other side won’t give you the same deference you give the Nazi, oops I meant the Neo Nazis, or no wait the Fascists.
This is all about optics and if calling them Nazi works to any degree, I could care less about semantics.
Consider conservatives care exactly zero percent about semantics, it seems like your personal crusade to correct every reference from Nazi to Fascist is foolhardy to say the least.
If your point is that the right mischaracterizes things and twists the truth for political advantage, then I agree with you.
I’m saying that anyone that’s doing that is wrong, no matter which ‘side’ they are on. Lying and spinning the truth is toxic to political discourse and should be discouraged even when it is unpopular (as here).
Good we can agree on what the right does. I am certainly not saying we need to stoop to their level, but they are winning the propaganda war no doubt about it.
Words matter, like you allude to. I have two issues though. The first is there are certainly Neo Nazis in our government. With the release of the “Young Republican” chat we can clearly see they are Neo Nazis. So in this respect calling them a Nazi is not misattributed at all.
The second issue has to do with effective propaganda. The truth is the majority of people don’t know what fascism is, but most people know about Nazism and have a negative perception of it.
So you insistence that we call them fascist hurts our ability to help the public understanding that what they are doing is wrong.
Another side issue is solidarity. If you are not aware there are a lot of counter-intel and infiltration going on. This backbiting where you are trying to declare every progressive wrong who uses the word Nazi to describe conservatives is exactly this type of action.
Whether you see it or not other people do. That is probably why you get so much pushback.
calling them nazi’s is not ignorance of what a nazi was.
it’s invoking direct comparison between someone and the explicit actions of the nazis among other fascist.
it’s sorta like claiming none can be called a dickhead because no one has a dick for a head
to argue agisnst the capability of comparison is to defend one of the two parties, so which nazi are you defending here?
More ignorant nonsense. This is the kind of reasoning that you get from only consuming social media.
The world isn’t divided into “everyone who agrees with me 100% on everything” and Nazis.
Ah yes, everyone who defends Palestine are supporters of Hamas no?
Too bad the other side won’t give you the same deference you give the Nazi, oops I meant the Neo Nazis, or no wait the Fascists.
This is all about optics and if calling them Nazi works to any degree, I could care less about semantics.
Consider conservatives care exactly zero percent about semantics, it seems like your personal crusade to correct every reference from Nazi to Fascist is foolhardy to say the least.
Uh, no they’re not.
You’re way off the mark if you’re trying to attribute right-wing talking points to me.
You are clearly trying to personalize this and missing the point entirely.
No, I am not saying you said that. Cheers!
If your point is that the right mischaracterizes things and twists the truth for political advantage, then I agree with you.
I’m saying that anyone that’s doing that is wrong, no matter which ‘side’ they are on. Lying and spinning the truth is toxic to political discourse and should be discouraged even when it is unpopular (as here).
Good we can agree on what the right does. I am certainly not saying we need to stoop to their level, but they are winning the propaganda war no doubt about it.
Words matter, like you allude to. I have two issues though. The first is there are certainly Neo Nazis in our government. With the release of the “Young Republican” chat we can clearly see they are Neo Nazis. So in this respect calling them a Nazi is not misattributed at all.
The second issue has to do with effective propaganda. The truth is the majority of people don’t know what fascism is, but most people know about Nazism and have a negative perception of it.
So you insistence that we call them fascist hurts our ability to help the public understanding that what they are doing is wrong.
Another side issue is solidarity. If you are not aware there are a lot of counter-intel and infiltration going on. This backbiting where you are trying to declare every progressive wrong who uses the word Nazi to describe conservatives is exactly this type of action.
Whether you see it or not other people do. That is probably why you get so much pushback.