• Doomsider@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    Ah yes, everyone who defends Palestine are supporters of Hamas no?

    Too bad the other side won’t give you the same deference you give the Nazi, oops I meant the Neo Nazis, or no wait the Fascists.

    This is all about optics and if calling them Nazi works to any degree, I could care less about semantics.

    Consider conservatives care exactly zero percent about semantics, it seems like your personal crusade to correct every reference from Nazi to Fascist is foolhardy to say the least.

    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 hours ago

      Ah yes, everyone who defends Palestine are supporters of Hamas no?

      Uh, no they’re not.

      You’re way off the mark if you’re trying to attribute right-wing talking points to me.

      • Doomsider@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 hours ago

        You are clearly trying to personalize this and missing the point entirely.

        No, I am not saying you said that. Cheers!

        • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 hours ago

          If your point is that the right mischaracterizes things and twists the truth for political advantage, then I agree with you.

          I’m saying that anyone that’s doing that is wrong, no matter which ‘side’ they are on. Lying and spinning the truth is toxic to political discourse and should be discouraged even when it is unpopular (as here).

          • Doomsider@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            8 hours ago

            Good we can agree on what the right does. I am certainly not saying we need to stoop to their level, but they are winning the propaganda war no doubt about it.

            Words matter, like you allude to. I have two issues though. The first is there are certainly Neo Nazis in our government. With the release of the “Young Republican” chat we can clearly see they are Neo Nazis. So in this respect calling them a Nazi is not misattributed at all.

            The second issue has to do with effective propaganda. The truth is the majority of people don’t know what fascism is, but most people know about Nazism and have a negative perception of it.

            So you insistence that we call them fascist hurts our ability to help the public understanding that what they are doing is wrong.

            Another side issue is solidarity. If you are not aware there are a lot of counter-intel and infiltration going on. This backbiting where you are trying to declare every progressive wrong who uses the word Nazi to describe conservatives is exactly this type of action.

            Whether you see it or not other people do. That is probably why you get so much pushback.