Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

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    Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.

    All because the Dems didn’t want to “seem political”. Mmmmkay.

    The world is laughing at us.

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      Laughing is the wrong word. The world has lost all respect for us. But also, most Americans have lost all respect for their government as well.

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        People need to realize that Trump is 50 years in the making. He was not the first to put “undesirables” in camps and arrest people based on racial profiling. He’s not the first to give tax cuts/subsidies/bailouts to the rich while the cost of living gets progressively worse. He’s not the first president to bomb countries without Congressional approval.

        These trends are accelerated by Trump, but will continue after he’s gone because they are systemic.

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      Why don’t all criminals just run for office? They can’t be sentenced then, that would seem political

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        Oh no no, you misunderstand.

        You must also be rich and white. It’s not political to lock up poor or minority political candidates, even if they aren’t criminals.

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      Nah, the dems are complicit. Anyone with 2 neurons to rub together saw this coming. The reason they didnt prosecute is because theyre busy trying to find ways to secure themselves in the new regime, not antagonise the new god-leader. The Dems are straight up evil, only differentiated from the fascists by the fact that theyre too scared to actually do anything impactful.

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      I’m not sure how this is the dems fault, but okay.

      Trump is hitler stupid, and it’s the dems fault.

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        I’m not sure the specific blame the above commenter is referring to, but I blame Democrats for two things.

        1. They failed to recognize and truly fix systemic problems because the actual solutions aren’t market-oriented.

        2. They dragged their heels on prosecuting Trump when he was out of power long enough for him to escape any liability and ultimately establish… this.

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          JFC, do you really think that peace for a long time led them to believe that the republicans would go full on nazi? No one thought this would happen to this extreme. Stop fucking blaming the victims, which is the American people.

          Trump and his republicans are NAZIS.

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            No one thought this would happen to this extreme.

            No, it was actually pretty easy to imagine when:

            1. Trump told people to “find votes” for him;
            2. Trump had himself pre-emptively certified as the winner in some states; and
            3. Trump used stochastic terrorism to incite a riot outside a government building, as a response to his impending loss of power.

            All of that screams “power-hungry facist”, and the predictable outcome of someone like that regaining legal authority, obviously, is an attempt to transition towards fascism so they can retain that once-lost power indefinitely.

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              And he told people they’d never have to vote again. And Project 2025 forecast what would happen if he won but people wrote off that publicly available document as a delusion of the left

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              Also, The Annoying Orange told everyone he’d be their “retribution”. If people heard that and were confused about what that meant for most of the country, I don’t know what to say.

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            A lot of us thought this would happen if Trump won again. I don’t think any of us thought it would get this bad this quickly, but definitely within his 2nd term.

            Just to be clear, when I say I blame Democrats, I mean I blame the Democratic party, the Democrat leaders (Pelosi, Schumer, etc), and their apparatus. I can see how you thought I was blaming voters, but I assure you that’s not what I meant.

            And yes, I agree. The GOP are officially fascists by virtually any definition of the term.

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            Lots of people foresaw this and tried to warn everybody and we were written off as irrational fearmongerers

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            Actually, a lot of us didn’t fail history & have functional pattern matching abilities.

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              The Hilldawg/DNC mugging of Bernie Sanders in 2016 confirmed to me that there were no good guys, just different sides.

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                Most popular Presidential Candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the ballot in either of them. I’ve had conservative coworkers who’ve told me that they maybe didn’t agree with Bernie but he’s one of the few politicians they TRUST. That’s rare and a squandered opportunity.

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            has eyes

            Saw this coming

            Guys I’m a fucking genius, i bet next we will find out the sky is sometimes blue.

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        The Dems put ‘decorum’ before sanity. The DOJ in the new admin should have gone hard after Trump and his henchmen on January 21 2021.

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        Because the Dems allowed open treason to fester. Trump literally should have been executed for crimes against the state.

        Instead he was let off with zero repercussions and allowed to pardon the insurrectionist mob. Terrible consequences have ensued and will continue on.

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        There is no low the Republicans can stoop to that won’t result Murc’s Law being a thing.

        The Republicans could be at the shoving people onto trains phase and there will still be a certain type of individual trying to blame the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans…

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          If a gang of criminals is causing trouble all over town and nothing is being done to stop them, I’m gonna be mad at the criminals and also mad at police, prosecutors, and judges for not doing their job and stopping these people