/c/fuckai has two dozen mods but ironically only time I’ve ever seen them take action on anyone was when they removed my post asking for recs for a community with more active moderation (lol)
I’d like to discuss generative AI from a highly skeptical perspective but with higher standards of quality and without all the mouth-frothy raging and bad memes of /c/fuckai.
Does anywhere else like that exist on the fediverse? I don’t care if it’s small/underutilized. And no I’m not interested in creating it myself.
So in your mind there is no middle ground people who feel somewhere between “AI boosting zealot” and “fuck AI it’s terrible in literally every single way”?
If you honestly believe that then you’ve already spent too much time with simple minded communities that only deal in absolutes.
Sweeping broad statements like this are almost always incredibly easy to disprove. If you’re talking about AI technology in general, of which LLMs are just one facet, then you can look at the protein structure work of Deep Mind which has literally revolutionized biomedical engineering by predicting the protein structures for hundreds of thousands of proteins, whereas previously predicting the structure of a single one would take a full research PhD.
Even if you’re just talking LLMs there are a myriad of benefits from them being integrated into assistive technology, note taking for medical professionals, improved translation and transcription engines etc.
You can look for a community of ostriches who yell ‘nah nah nah’ while burying their heads in the sand, but you’re not making a difference, you’re just a bunch of birds ineffectively yelling at each other while blinding themselves to reality.
There’s no middle ground for these people.
It’s like trying to meet Nazis half way, it only helps them.
There is no “convincing them to submit to reason” they have an invalid ideology and are only interested in forcing it on others.
Based on my experience with spaces for discussing and arguing about AI, there is a huge amount of middle ground in peoples opinions between unconditional rejection of the technology and complete denial of every problem or threat that could be associated with it. There’s also many different perspectives about what solutions to those problems are a good idea or not.
There is not anything like ideological unity. Someone who is supportive of AI for anti copyright reasons is usually going to have a lot of differences of opinion with someone who thinks AI powered surveillance will solve society’s problems by eliminating crime. Someone who wants strong government crackdowns on AI because they think Eliezer is right that a superintelligence will form and kill us all will disagree in many ways with someone who thinks the technology is largely a scam. This is a new thing that’s causing rapid changes, so people are going to have different ideas about it.