Vermont.
New England.
These places exist, but they are expensive as fuuuuuuuuck
I live near Asheville and fucking hell you are not kidding. The price creep has spread out in a 60 mile radius and just keeps getting worse. I can’t even afford to live in my hometown anymore.
I heard a rumor that a tree grows in Brooklyn.
Houseless (Van Life) deep in a forest works pretty well for me
Vermont?
Republican governor still, not as solid as you’d think.
He may be a member of the Republican party but if you just look at his record as governor, you’d probably guess he’s a Democrat. Pro choice, trans rights, thoroughly anti Trump, and even a lot of his tax cuts seem to prioritize relief for the working poor rather than the
leechinvestor class.Also, this is anecdotal but I’ve spent some time in Vermont and the conservatives there who I met were by and large reasonable, open-minded, and anti-Trump (there were a couple of exceptions but nowhere is perfect).
Yeah Vermont is hippie hillbillies
This is the way.
Has a general prejudice against city people.
Seattle, one hopes, is still green and bookish
I was going to move to Portland but I hear it’s a war zone lol
Yeah? Sounds like that’s where people on the right side are needed, then.
Portland is a great city. I’ve been living in the UK for almost 4 years now and I’ve never been to a bookshop as good as Powell’s, and the food there is at least twice as good as it ought to be, for what they charge.
Seattle has its own racism problem unfortunately
If you think Seattle’s race relations are on the same level or even close to any red state then I sincerely doubt you’ve ever left Seattle or been to a red state.
There are racist people literally everywhere but not everywhere makes a culture out of being racist.
Thanks for letting me know. Haven’t been there in a few years, sad to hear it.
Against any particular group?
From my observations, and from what I have been told from people of this group in seattle, mostly african americans. You’d have to hear from other marginalized groups for more info as I am not familiar with their experience. It’s less of the explicitly violent and threatening racism you see in the south and more of the “you’re so articulate” style of racism. Lots of pearl clutching and car door locking if you know what I mean.
Isn’t this just universal in America? This sounds like liberal racism, not republicans
Yes but it is particularly common in the PNW
That’s the kind I’m used to, having grown up in that area. It’s shitty, but has it changed in the last ten years? My area was north Seattle, where it’s always been an issue.
I’m a couple hours north of Seattle, and the PNW is crawling with the Proud Boy type. I was doing memory care for people with downs syndrome and dementia, and we had to get the cops involved because somebody was prowling around the facility with a rifle slung over his back during the first trump presidency.
It’s the same problems it’s always had, but trump has deffo turned the volume up.
I am legit having this dilemma now.
There’s some spots in the big nyc parks where you’re surrounded by trees and can pretend you’re not in a big city. That’s all I’ve got.
Outside the city it gets surprisingly conservative sometimes. I knew someone who had family north of Albany, and their neighbor flew a confederate flag. Probably a maga flag now.
Atlanta. Just don’t go past the perimeter.
Pacific Northwest and certain parts of the northeast
Oregon was originally founded as an all-white state. The PNW has lots of racists and they all live in the stix since they think Portland and Seattle are portals to Hell.
And as far as the Northeast is concerned, I think only Vermont has rural areas that aren’t MAGA.
If you live in the city or directly adjacent this is true, but it gets republican really fast once you get a bit more into the trees.
Even the cities are starting to get purple
bunch of rural racists, mixed suburbs at best
East of the cascades it’s all racism. But to the west I didn’t encounter it much. But that may just be an anecdotal comparison to the actual shit holes I have lived in where racism thrived rather than lurked.
I traveled all over Oregon and Washington after living in the southeast.
What you say holds true but to a lesser degree than true red areas.
A lot of the people who consider themselves conservative would be relentlessly bullied for being a liberal if they moved to an actual red area.
It’s funny because their utopian views of conservative areas mirrored my utopian view of Seattle when I lived in a conservative shit hole.
The I-5 corridor of the Pacific Northwest.
Idk about the Washington part but the Oregon part would be Jefferson, so not exactly progressive, until you hit the Willamette valley which I’ve never been to but assume it’s like the central valley here in CA and full of the most annoying conservatives constantly complaining about the big cities.
Eugene is in the Wallamette Valley and is a historically progressive city (despite it’s origins), especially for LGBTQ+ people and communities. It’s home to the University of Oregon which has a fairly diverse student body and faculty. Lots of “everybody is welcome” signs in shop windows, “hate has no home here” signs in people’s yards.
Hop across the river and you’re in Springfield, which is another story. Kind of a Tale of Two Cities thing. Much less wealth along with all the problems that tend to follow.
Asheville and Boone NC
Those might be nice towns but at this point I’m staying away from any MAGA states, regardless of whether they have islands of sanity in them.
After hurricane Helene? Good luck!
middle of nowhere
Thats the problem, on average rurally living folks tend to be more conservative.
I think they mean really middle of nowhere, as in there’s nobody around
So… maybe Wyoming, on the fringes of Yellowstone? Or northern Idaho? Those might be the most sparsely populated forest areas I know about.
I’d say Alaska but it’s so remote that basic materials are very expensive.
The Michigan upper peninsula is pretty remote too but I don’t think I could handle the winters.
Live next to some bears, they’ll keep the conservatives away.
I was gonna ask “which kind” but it’s definitely both.
The IS is huge so there’s not way you can’t find this location.
