• abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.

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    My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that’s always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.

    Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking “with or without gang violence?”

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    I don’t think I understand any of what’s being said here. Don’t know the term, don’t know the references being made in the post.

  • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.

    Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

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    I’ve no idea what this means, but if they’re just racist PoS I don’t think I care about nuance.

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      Basically Kirk was MAGA, the shooter was from a group called ‘groypers’ led by Nick Fuentes. There’s an online meme ‘persona’ of sorts called Pepe, who I guess the groypers use as a mascot. Which is a shame as some of the Pepe content is pretty awesome. It’s the punisher skull shit all over again. Anyway, infighting between facist groups, groypers being the more extreme far right group, which I didn’t think was possible but here we are.

  • Chris Lowles@lemmy.zip
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    Basically racists got mad Pepe got reco-opted by democratic protestors in Hong Kong so they decided to make their own frog to put racist shit on, this is how a decent chunk of America passes the time.

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    I have a feeling the trial is going to be a cringe fest of internet memes. Lawyers explaining to the jury what 4chan and pepe is. The trial Charlie Kirk deserves.

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      Oh-woo-oh, obviously. Just imagine the cringe if your mom decides to joke with OwO and UwU to her friends, it’ll be worth it

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    I didn’t even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.

    I only knew Nick Fuentes as “That guy who tried to sue Antifa” and later “The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024”

    Apparently there’s controversy about him not “really” being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly… and I’m like…

    “This is too much even for me.”

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    I KNOW RIGHT???

    And people were like “oh the killer carved UWU what’s this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that’s common in Groyper circles”

    Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean???
    I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I’m just like dude, our lizard brains can’t handle the internet. We just weren’t wired to work like this, there’s no way

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      seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles

      My favorite thing is the neonazis wearing pleated khakis. Like, the only item of clothing even nerdier than that is lederhosen.

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        My nephew is being sent to an evangelical school whose uniform is khakis and a choice of a red or blue polo shirt. Want to guess which color is social suicide?

        Im no longer talking to that part of my family.

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      I really, truly, with all of my being, feel that we are reaching the end limits of what the human mind is currently able to contend with. We are so overstimulated it’s insane. We literally need to evolve our physical bodies as a species to continue living as we are or we will literally die.

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          I don’t even want to bring up brain chips, there’s plenty of people who already think they have them. Imagine the psychosis.

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              With cigarettes, we recognized that harm that they did and in response developed a series of regulations about where they could be used, who could use them when, how they could be advertised, warning labels that had to be applied, and taxes on them to discourage use and offset the societal harm. As result we get this:

              …and this…

              The internet is a tricky one on account of it absolutely having crossover with the first amendment, but there’s got to be a conversation about its effect on mental health and what if anything can be done in response.

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      I’m a grown-ass, nearly 40 year-old family man, and I fucking know what “uwu” is. These idiots think they’re “exposing the conspiracy”, when in reality anyone who has spent more than 4 seconds researching any meme would immediately recognize it.

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    If anyone’s feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog’s creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It’s very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.

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    I mean, most white people feel the same way. We learn about it and it’s like, wtf.