cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35684522
Despite his support for Trump, Ragland has become increasingly vocal about the need for immediate trade resolution. “We desperately need to get something rectified quickly with China, our biggest export customer,” he told CNN. “We wanna encourage the administration to get a proactive trade deal done.”
Liberals become wishy washy and lose elections
Let GOP get in charge
GOP destroys the export economy
Americans are all now forced to eat mointains of feminizing soy
The secret long term plot against conservatives to turn them all gay and trans is almost complete!
Soy is not feminizing. Plant estrogens are not mammal estrogen. You have to actually take estrogen. It’s really inconvenient.
Maybe it’s a plot by the GOP! The GOP wants to turn all your kids trans!
Guess we are all eating a bunch of tofu real soon.
Even if it was the type of soy suited for direct human consumption, it would never happen. Farmers, agribusiness, and the government would rather watch people starve before allowing the price of food to drop that low.
Nah, it will all rot
All I have to say is get fucked loser
I was about to suggest that maybe not all farmers voted for trump and thus they may not deserve the financial hardship, then I read this
"Despite his support for Trump, Ragland has become increasingly vocal about the need for immediate trade resolution. “We desperately need to get something rectified quickly with China, our biggest export customer,” he told CNN. “We wanna encourage the administration to get a proactive trade deal done.”
lol, gfy.
I also have been feeling schaedenfreud but its not all their fault. They may have voted for trump but that was mainly because they were misled by propaganda networks. It shows how bad reporting is particularly among the rustbelt propaganda networks.Because none of these people were aware about project twenty twenty five which pretty much promised to crush trade.
If they had been presented with accurate reporting there’s no way they would have voted against the pro trade neo liberals.
Our legal and political system enabled a group of plutocrats to falsify reporting and amplify russian disinformation campaigns.
Except that Trump has said enough stupid shit in obvious places that it can’t be hidden unless you’ve got a chokehold that is simply impossible to maintain on that many people. Ten million maybe, but no at this point they’re willing. They want this and whether they’re profoundly stupid or incredibly evil doesn’t much matter like it used to considering the damage they’re doing.
Conservatives just suck. The world at their fingertips and daily, unavoidable examples of why they’re super wrong and they still go hard for the worst possible options because they aren’t intelligent enough to understand even the most basic complexities or have even shreds of empathy for people they can’t directly see(and many will even hate those right in front of them). Nah dude, fuck that.
People have been screaming for decades how shitty GOP and Conservative/Libertarian policies are, with proper backed examples and data.
These people still didn’t listen.
They chose this.
They were told this would happen, plainly enough for a child to understand, and they chose it anyway.
Youre right that they should have known better but you cant blame fools for being fools. You can blame the conmen who scam them.
I monitor conservative and nationalist media and they promote lies all day long. The people screaming about whats going on? Completely misrepresented or marginalized in their coverage. Its impossible to have democracy with propaganda networks ranking number 1 in the public consciousness
About half of the customers for my seasonal business are farmers. I told them directly. They didn’t believe me or didn’t care.
Now they have crops rotting in the fields.
How all the soy boy beta cucks working for this administration will sound this winter while trying to reassure Americans we don’t need to resort to cannibalism just yet bc we still have an insane surplus of unprocessed soy beans we have to do something with.
I say this as a vegetarian. I’m kinda looking forward to hearing what kind of propaganda these people will spin to explain the sudden 180. “Awkshully, soy has always been one of the most hyper masculine protein sources available in the western hemisphere.”
Maybe if you do nothing and just let the crops rot they will auto ferment into blocks of tofu?
They will likely dump the crops in the ocean to keep prices stable like they do with many other surpluses. One of the worst things about capitalism, instead of trying to feed the poor or do something useful with it
Lumber’s getting affordable so they’ve drastically stopped cutting.
Or the government subsidizes it buying up enough of the crop to raise the price and then destroys it. They could buy up some of the crap and then give it to people that weren’t going to buy soybeans anyway.
Unprocessed? Just cook em and eat em. Or pull them early for edamame.
Farmers:
Votes for Trump
Loses business because of Tariff backlash
Gets bailed out
Votes for Trump two more times
Loses business because of Tariff backlash
Who could have seen this coming?
Them. They see your pattern continuing.
Imagine if the government paid you to sit on your ass instead of going to work.
And since your income is no longer tied to any sense of production, you fudge your number a little and end up better off being on welfare than working full time.
Maybe Monsanto or somebody might get bailed out, but smaller farmers won’t get a single penny out of the GOP.
We’re seeing that play out in Arkansas, as this year family farmers are either driven off their farms (some after 6 generations) or are committing suicide quickly. One of my friends knew a farmer that killed himself last night. They’re really thinking the feds are coming to save them, instead of forcing them off the land so it can be purchased by conglomerates.
Slow suicide is the worst though
I dunno. I’m kinda fond of drinking personally
“Small” farmers own millions in land and equipment. Mom and Pop farmers are essentially a myth at this point.
Listen, there are two ways things can be. A diverse set of farms with less than 100 acres total each, or entire regions of millions of acres dominated singularly by massive corporations.
Small farmers exist, and mom and pop farmers are very real, even if it is inherently quite exclusive.
It’s not a dire situation for the people who want his land.
Yeah exactly. Big agribusiness will scoop these family farms up at very cheap prices. Follow the money.
They can always blame Biden (Joe or Hunter), Obama, or trans people! 🤡🤡🤡🤡
True maybe the sales orders are in Hunter’s laptop. That’s why they wanted it so bad.
Or just blame China directly and call this an act of war.
Attack Venezuela! That will solve it!
Or Greenland.
If we reclaim Panama we can deny Chinese shipping until they decide to play nice. Simple!
It’s so ridiculous they would blame trans people when theyre SOYBEAN farmers.
I thought they’d want more soyboys to exist to consume their product.
Bootstraps people, bootstraps
That’s ok, you don’t have anyone to harvest them anyway.
I had to pipe in this old post from August 6th 2019
"Chinese companies have stopped buying U.S. agricultural products, China’s Commerce Ministry said on Tuesday, a blow to U.S. farmers who have already seen their exports slashed by the more than year-old trade war.
American Farm Bureau Federation President Zippy Duvall called the announcement from China “a body blow to thousands of farmers and ranchers who are already struggling to get by.”
China imported $9.1 billion of U.S. farm produce in 2018 - mainly soybeans Sc1, dairy, sorghum and pork LHc1 - down from $19.5 billion in 2017, according to the American Farm Bureau.
Your Dumbfuck-In-Chief, folks. I’m sure someone has a clever retort involving emails, or pocahontas, or shithole countries."
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions…
Oh no! If only there had been some way for farmers to know this was going to happen! Like Trump telling them it was going to happen! Or every economist in the country warning it was going to happen! Or Trump doing the same thing in his first term! WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN???
If only there had been some way for farmers to know this was going to happen
Midwestern Dems are sprinkled with nativist, anti-China, police gimp politicians that overwhelmed their GOP colleagues. So it’s sort of a crap shoot. You might get a Tim Walz or you might get a Pete Buttigieg or you might get a Terri Sewell.
Just “Vote Blue No Matter Who” isn’t a panacea. Not when so many Dems are cuddling up to the Cheney and Bloomberg brand of Republicanism, even as they fervently reject Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib
WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN???
Biden had four years to reverse Trump policies, rebuild ties with our largest trading partners, and prosecute the corrupt officials in the prior administration.
Instead, he continued the War on Migrants, tried to shut down TikTok while flooding Israel with cheap munitions, and gave a DOJ sized shrug to fascists big and small.
These decisions cost his party 6M votes between 2020 and 2024.
I thought “blue no matter who” was a call for the general election because at the federal level the alternative is the republican.
Then to change the direction of the party you have to be involved far ahead of the election in the candidate suction process.
… not that they’re necessarily going to listen. The forced two party thing we have going will probably always corrupt the “good” party if there is one.
I thought “blue no matter who” was a call for the general election because at the federal level the alternative is the republican.
If you’re supporting reactionaries in your own party, you’re not opposing Republicans at the national level.
Bullshit. In this case our reality is so twisted that this is the time to vote blue, no matter who. Anti-fascist, no matter who. Least unethical, no matter who.
I look forward to the day when all major candidates are not channeling evil supervillains, who care about their constituents (not just enriching their friends and corporate benefactors) and can articulate a platform toward their concept. I look forward to the day we can relate to “both sides” again, to the day we can debate the merits of different proposals. I too wish for that utopia where it’s reasonable to choose on who has the best plan.
In the meantime it’s just not ok
In this case our reality is so twisted that this is the time to vote blue, no matter who.
That’s how you end up with a Congress and President who continues to pander to fascism from the liberal side of the aisle.
We played the “Vote Blue” game with Biden and he pooched it. Burned another generational opportunity for reform so he could placate his friends in Israel and Wall Street.
I look forward to the day when all major candidates are not channeling evil supervillains
You can’t look forward to it. You have to champion it. That means actively opposing Democrats who are complicit in the horror.
In the meantime it’s just not ok
This is the mentality that continues to propel Andrew Cuomo’s campaign.
It still amazes me that they are surprised. They lived through it the first time. It wasn’t fake news It was their own reality.
They will vote for him again.
Trump had no control, deep state did it obvs /s
Yeah it was because of Biden / Kamala first time and now.
Thanks Obama!
And if it wasn’t their fault then both sides are the same!
/s
