DEMOCRATS FAKE & BAD
VOTING BAD
EFFECTIVE OUTREACH BAD
NEWSOME BAD
NO CONSTRUCTIVE EFFORT GOOD
Where’s your better candidate doing shit to beat MAGA?
Where’s your hard work to get them onto & through primaries onto the ballot?
Getting more progressives in office doesn’t start with “not voting”.
It ends with voting for them when you produce a better candidate & get them on the ballot.
Bitching alone doesn’t magically get better contenders to materialize on the scene to beat your opponents & win your causes.
Show us a better alternative worthy of a coalition, and do the hard work of building that coalition around them.
MAGA did the hard work.
They infiltrated all levels of government, all legislatures, executive posts of several states.
They built coalitions from the bottom up.
I reached out to a DNC backed group thats supposed to work on getting progressives into local offices so that we can start working our way up.
On my very first call with the state organizer with the DNC they asked me how much money i make currently and when i answered they told me it wasn’t enough to actually run. Then they asked me if i had a wealthy family i could borrow from or a wealthy church. I said i was Buddhist and they got excited aaying Buddhists are usually good for high donation amounts so i should get them to connect with the group.
I asked about me running and what we could do to help my chances and without hesitation they said, i should just donate what little i had to them and back one of their better candidates when they let me know when they have found someone.
They went on to brag that they have a 30% win rate.
The blue party doesnt want normal people risiing in ranks. It dirties their purity and careful club they have made for themselves. The left needs to do double the work and then some.
I worked my ass off last year to get the only person I viewed as worthy onto the ballot last year, Claudia de la Cruz from the PSL party, and the most they were allowed was a write-in option. Something they weren’t even allowed in every state cause the DNC fights hard to keep leftist parties from being on the ballot. I don’t want to hear that you gotta wait till we get ranked choice voting before voting for who you actually support. It’s never going to happen. My state officially banned it last year by combining it with an anti-immigrant bill. If the Dems want me to support them, they’d have to run someone exactly like her or even further left.
MAGA didn’t start with the RNC demanding loyalty for party politics, it started after a bunch of online gamers mobilized against women in video games and took the party over.
Democrats dont have the same motion because they keep tossing water on any populist energy in their base, and that’s exactly what is being criticized in the meme
No, maga started with the tea party taking over and demanding loyalty. You literally had to sign loyalty oaths that dictated acceptable policy or risk getting primaried by these wackos.
There have always been fringe reactionary elements in the republican party, just like there have always been fringe socialist elements in the democratic party.
IMO, that reactionary movement didn’t reach critical mass until the populist gamergate movement and all the cultural backlash that followed. Trump likely would not have won in 2016 if there hadn’t been widespread reactionary sentiment already boiling over in online spaces.
Similarly, democrats can’t count on winning if they ignore the populist sentiment simmering in their own party, and even less if they continue actively suppressing it.
Trump had nothing to do with gamergate. He won in 2016 because the DNC had given up on getting the working class vote which lost them key rust belt states. They were so sure helping Trump win the primary would be an auto win in the general, they barely bothered campaigning at all.
No disagreement, but they believed he would lose because they miscalculated just how popular he was becoming in that demographic. They assumed either a typical republican turnout, or slightly reduced due to centrist republicans being turned off by his populism and abrasive aesthetic. They didn’t expect the high turnout among young white men, and a big motivation for those voters was a reactionary misogynistic and anti-establishment resentment. That Hillary was a white woman from the political elite class amplified that sentiment, too.
He didn’t ‘have anything to do’ with gamergate directly, but that movement is what set the environment for his popularity. Had that demographic remained politically apathetic, there’s a good chance the election would have gone more like what the democrats were expecting. And had the democrats run a more populist candidate/policy platform that addressed the sinking popularity among their own base, they might have overcome that higher turnout on the republican side.
They seem poised to replay the same strategy, though - Newsome is a milquetost neoliberal candidate from the political elite class, and unless trump actually sinks his own coalition, Newsome likely won’t activate enough of the democratic base (who is increasingly unhappy with the party) to beat a similar high anti-establishment voter base on the republican side. I’m praying AOC actually runs, or another progressive with a populist economic agenda, and that the democrats don’t fuck themselves and the entire country over by working against the popular sentiment among young democrats and non-voters. It would be a huge mistake for them to assume trump is unpopular enough to ignore their own unpopularity within the progressive side of their caucus.
Because trump’s rise through the republican party was predicated on a popular reactionary movement that was - at the very least - far less prominent during the rush limbaugh days. Democrats made a political calculation that Trump couldn’t win, and that calculation included factoring in the green party voters for trump. The part they missed is that the culture had shifted, and a big part of that shift happened during and after gamergate in a demographic they weren’t expecting to turn out.
You could elect dems across the board and they will still be bought by AIPAC, there will be an unsustainable ecomony, and people will still need to lose civil rights to support the growing wealth inequality gap. The US as we knew it is over. Trump is just a symptom of a problem that has been getting worse for decades.
Wild thought, but maybe you could do your due diligence and not vote in corrupt POS. Or run for election yourself if you can’t find a satisfactory candidate.
That is not realistic. I do not have the resources to look perfect enough to do that so I can compete with people that still have hidden the Epstein files and never done a second of time in jail for it.
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind someone taking arms and crowning himself king of emperor. I am tired of pathetic presidents who can’t do anything at all or pretend they are good. Democracy is allowing any turd to reign over a country because of the stupid people.
DEMOCRATS FAKE & BAD
VOTING BAD
EFFECTIVE OUTREACH BAD
NEWSOME BAD
NO CONSTRUCTIVE EFFORT GOOD
Where’s your better candidate doing shit to beat MAGA? Where’s your hard work to get them onto & through primaries onto the ballot?
Getting more progressives in office doesn’t start with “not voting”. It ends with voting for them when you produce a better candidate & get them on the ballot.
Bitching alone doesn’t magically get better contenders to materialize on the scene to beat your opponents & win your causes. Show us a better alternative worthy of a coalition, and do the hard work of building that coalition around them.
MAGA did the hard work. They infiltrated all levels of government, all legislatures, executive posts of several states. They built coalitions from the bottom up.
The left will need to do at least as much work.
I will tell this story as many times as needed.
I reached out to a DNC backed group thats supposed to work on getting progressives into local offices so that we can start working our way up.
On my very first call with the state organizer with the DNC they asked me how much money i make currently and when i answered they told me it wasn’t enough to actually run. Then they asked me if i had a wealthy family i could borrow from or a wealthy church. I said i was Buddhist and they got excited aaying Buddhists are usually good for high donation amounts so i should get them to connect with the group.
I asked about me running and what we could do to help my chances and without hesitation they said, i should just donate what little i had to them and back one of their better candidates when they let me know when they have found someone.
They went on to brag that they have a 30% win rate.
The blue party doesnt want normal people risiing in ranks. It dirties their purity and careful club they have made for themselves. The left needs to do double the work and then some.
I worked my ass off last year to get the only person I viewed as worthy onto the ballot last year, Claudia de la Cruz from the PSL party, and the most they were allowed was a write-in option. Something they weren’t even allowed in every state cause the DNC fights hard to keep leftist parties from being on the ballot. I don’t want to hear that you gotta wait till we get ranked choice voting before voting for who you actually support. It’s never going to happen. My state officially banned it last year by combining it with an anti-immigrant bill. If the Dems want me to support them, they’d have to run someone exactly like her or even further left.
MAGA didn’t start with the RNC demanding loyalty for party politics, it started after a bunch of online gamers mobilized against women in video games and took the party over.
Democrats dont have the same motion because they keep tossing water on any populist energy in their base, and that’s exactly what is being criticized in the meme
No, maga started with the tea party taking over and demanding loyalty. You literally had to sign loyalty oaths that dictated acceptable policy or risk getting primaried by these wackos.
There have always been fringe reactionary elements in the republican party, just like there have always been fringe socialist elements in the democratic party.
IMO, that reactionary movement didn’t reach critical mass until the populist gamergate movement and all the cultural backlash that followed. Trump likely would not have won in 2016 if there hadn’t been widespread reactionary sentiment already boiling over in online spaces.
Similarly, democrats can’t count on winning if they ignore the populist sentiment simmering in their own party, and even less if they continue actively suppressing it.
Trump had nothing to do with gamergate. He won in 2016 because the DNC had given up on getting the working class vote which lost them key rust belt states. They were so sure helping Trump win the primary would be an auto win in the general, they barely bothered campaigning at all.
No disagreement, but they believed he would lose because they miscalculated just how popular he was becoming in that demographic. They assumed either a typical republican turnout, or slightly reduced due to centrist republicans being turned off by his populism and abrasive aesthetic. They didn’t expect the high turnout among young white men, and a big motivation for those voters was a reactionary misogynistic and anti-establishment resentment. That Hillary was a white woman from the political elite class amplified that sentiment, too.
He didn’t ‘have anything to do’ with gamergate directly, but that movement is what set the environment for his popularity. Had that demographic remained politically apathetic, there’s a good chance the election would have gone more like what the democrats were expecting. And had the democrats run a more populist candidate/policy platform that addressed the sinking popularity among their own base, they might have overcome that higher turnout on the republican side.
They seem poised to replay the same strategy, though - Newsome is a milquetost neoliberal candidate from the political elite class, and unless trump actually sinks his own coalition, Newsome likely won’t activate enough of the democratic base (who is increasingly unhappy with the party) to beat a similar high anti-establishment voter base on the republican side. I’m praying AOC actually runs, or another progressive with a populist economic agenda, and that the democrats don’t fuck themselves and the entire country over by working against the popular sentiment among young democrats and non-voters. It would be a huge mistake for them to assume trump is unpopular enough to ignore their own unpopularity within the progressive side of their caucus.
I don’t know why you keep trying to bring gamergate into it. That didn’t have anything to do with it.
Because trump’s rise through the republican party was predicated on a popular reactionary movement that was - at the very least - far less prominent during the rush limbaugh days. Democrats made a political calculation that Trump couldn’t win, and that calculation included factoring in the green party voters for trump. The part they missed is that the culture had shifted, and a big part of that shift happened during and after gamergate in a demographic they weren’t expecting to turn out.
You have your causal relationship wrong. Gamergate was not causal in electing Trump. That’s a bit like saying satanic panic got Reagan elected.
Let’s assume your narrative is correct (and it probably is).
You still failed to answer a single question OP asked.
Because OP is asking the wrong questions.
You could elect dems across the board and they will still be bought by AIPAC, there will be an unsustainable ecomony, and people will still need to lose civil rights to support the growing wealth inequality gap. The US as we knew it is over. Trump is just a symptom of a problem that has been getting worse for decades.
then…why bother posting online complaining about it if the entire thing is a such a waste of time?
Wild thought, but maybe you could do your due diligence and not vote in corrupt POS. Or run for election yourself if you can’t find a satisfactory candidate.
That is not realistic. I do not have the resources to look perfect enough to do that so I can compete with people that still have hidden the Epstein files and never done a second of time in jail for it.
Right now I am trying to figure out how to leave. The US is not safe for me.
lmao. Your candidate was a fascist creep and y’all wasted so many resources on her. Gross AF.
And now you’re still smug about it like a year later. Literally losers.
Harris was not fascist, jesus christ man
OP is a tankie… it’s just more shit spewed from them onto other platforms.
Everyone should really defed from .ml
Op is a .world user and posting in a .world comm.
Maybe everyone needs to defed from .world?
They’ve moved to db0 as well, they’re spreading out.
The call is coming from inside the house.
They’re everywhere! It’s almost like the whole recognizes that kamalacaust and the libs are worthless fash collaborators…
And… another tankie…
You should really sign up on hex or ml… they’ll welcome you with open arms
Everywhere as in just on lemmy and no where irl
Run away libs!!!
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind someone taking arms and crowning himself king of emperor. I am tired of pathetic presidents who can’t do anything at all or pretend they are good. Democracy is allowing any turd to reign over a country because of the stupid people.
Then you want some Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
To the stars!