• anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    No disagreement, but they believed he would lose because they miscalculated just how popular he was becoming in that demographic. They assumed either a typical republican turnout, or slightly reduced due to centrist republicans being turned off by his populism and abrasive aesthetic. They didn’t expect the high turnout among young white men, and a big motivation for those voters was a reactionary misogynistic and anti-establishment resentment. That Hillary was a white woman from the political elite class amplified that sentiment, too.

    He didn’t ‘have anything to do’ with gamergate directly, but that movement is what set the environment for his popularity. Had that demographic remained politically apathetic, there’s a good chance the election would have gone more like what the democrats were expecting. And had the democrats run a more populist candidate/policy platform that addressed the sinking popularity among their own base, they might have overcome that higher turnout on the republican side.

    They seem poised to replay the same strategy, though - Newsome is a milquetost neoliberal candidate from the political elite class, and unless trump actually sinks his own coalition, Newsome likely won’t activate enough of the democratic base (who is increasingly unhappy with the party) to beat a similar high anti-establishment voter base on the republican side. I’m praying AOC actually runs, or another progressive with a populist economic agenda, and that the democrats don’t fuck themselves and the entire country over by working against the popular sentiment among young democrats and non-voters. It would be a huge mistake for them to assume trump is unpopular enough to ignore their own unpopularity within the progressive side of their caucus.

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      6 days ago

      I don’t know why you keep trying to bring gamergate into it. That didn’t have anything to do with it.

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        6 days ago

        Because trump’s rise through the republican party was predicated on a popular reactionary movement that was - at the very least - far less prominent during the rush limbaugh days. Democrats made a political calculation that Trump couldn’t win, and that calculation included factoring in the green party voters for trump. The part they missed is that the culture had shifted, and a big part of that shift happened during and after gamergate in a demographic they weren’t expecting to turn out.

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          5 days ago

          You have your causal relationship wrong. Gamergate was not causal in electing Trump. That’s a bit like saying satanic panic got Reagan elected.

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            5 days ago

            The alternative being, what exactly? Trump creating the environment of resentment himself?

            I think that’s hubris. If that were true, then the American political system is so unstable that all it takes for a fascist takeover is the right person to come along and flip a switch.

            Edit: im also not saying gamergate caused Trump to get elected, only that it lead to the environment where he could win

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              4 days ago

              The fascist takeover was facilitated by the compromised republican party infiltrating every level of government with cultists. Literally nothing to do with gamergate.

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                    3 days ago

                    they are easily mislead

                    “That would mean all it would take is for the right person to come along and flip a switch”

                    This is idiotic and the dems will never win again if this is their understanding.