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When a really really good electric car comes out things will change. Right now gas is superior, 10 years from now electric may be.
Nothing against you, OP. I just don’t enjoy these comics. They’re telling me things I already knew and they’re not particularly funny while doing it.
If being relatable was the only thing you need to tell a joke, then “how about that airplane food?” wouldn’t have become the stand-in joke for a “bad comedian”.
It is worth mentioning that the artist still draws silly comics that are not about politics; they just aren’t the ones that get posted here very often.
I mean everyone has different tastes, it’s impossible for someone only to post things everyone likes
Yeah, I know. It’s just this one broke the camel’s back, so to speak, and I felt compelled to comment.
Yeah they are pretty terrible. The problem is the op is a great poster and blocking them would block good content and this community has other stuff I like. I wonder if I can block by a multiword keyword…
I wonder if I can block by a multiword keyword…
Iirc PieFed has a much more robust filtering mechanism than Lemmy, so it might do this if that’s what you desire
the term is “agreedian” - a comedian who says things you agree with, not ones that are funny.
Yeah, comics are supposed to make laugh. This is just preachy shit.
I don’t believe that, comics are comics and can cross an entire range of emotional triggers just like movies or a TV show. Many opt for comedy yes, some make you sad, some are “preachy” etc
Why does the dude look like he spent the last 40 minutes smugly rating the smell of his own farts?
Cause the artist can’t draw eyes so his are always shut.
His eyes are frequently not shut, it’s just that the artist often uses shut eyes in all of her characters as a form of facial expression.
Written like someone who doesn’t understand the need for high range and rapid refill/recharge to take the kids on a memorable trip to see corn and dirt for 16 hours on their way to a 3 day stay in South Dakota for 10 minutes of viewing Mt Rushmore as the lord intended
Your comment was written by someone who doesn’t understand that they’re putting their children’s lives at risk. If you’re on a long road trip, and you’re not stopping for 20-30 minutes every few hundred miles, you are a reckless driver. You might as well be driving drunk. The maximum range of modern EVs is already the range where you need to stop on a road trip and take 20-30 minutes to get a proper sit down meal or take other breaks of similar length. Rest is important while driving, and that doesn’t just mean getting a good night sleep.
If you’re taking your kids on a road trip, and you aren’t taking the length of stops needed for an EV trip, your kids should be taken from you, as you’re putting their lives in danger just to arrive at your motel 20 minutes sooner.
Fucking woooosh.
Firstly, you’re replying to an obvious joke. Secondly, just because an ICE driver can choose where their longer stops are because the refuel stops are short and infrequent, doesn’t mean they don’t do proper stops.
Thirdly, unless your EV is fairly new, 20-30 min doesn’t give you much range at all. 20 year old diesel car with a decent sized tank will get you 1000 miles of range in 2 minutes. After that, YOU decide where to stop and eat, rather than charger availability and remaining range deciding for you.
Hey there! Without being overly hostile, could you provide some citation? I’m interested to see the information as I’ve never heard this before. I do know there are laws in place for CDL drivers that are similar, especially for overnight, but nothing about ‘every few hundred miles’. This isn’t to say the law doesn’t exist, I just haven’t heard of it. Also I feel you may have missed the original commenters sarcasm.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437514000048
2 hours then take a break.
Thank you much!
The Outback is […] slow
I had to pause here for a moment because my wife’s 2016 Subaru Outback is the fastest of our cars and has some serious pick-up-and-go. I couldn’t understand why they were complaining about it being slow.
Then I remembered my wife specifically requested the V6 engine variant of the Outbacks. Only 1% of them are made with a V6 engine and there’s a waiting list a year or two long for one, depending on where you live. It’s worth it; it feels like driving an EV with how quickly it picks up speed, and with the amount of weight it can tow. And since it’s so rare, they deck them out with all the options. You don’t get a choice; they come with everything pre-installed.
We got lucky; we bought ours from a Subaru dealership where all the employees were salaried, so they didn’t give a shit whether we bought a car or not. They weren’t pushy or trying to haggle a price. The sticker price was the cost, end of story. You either pay it or leave.
We were both active duty military at the time we bought it, and they had a deal where AD military paid 10% below the MSRP price, so we only paid around $34K for it. It was almost $38K MSRP in 2016. So we got a deal and it’s been a mostly reliable car this past decade.
My extended family all buys Subarus; they really love them. I’m the black sheep; my personal car is actually a Mazda. 😜
My 2.5 H4 Subaru was a bit sluggish, but the real issue is fuel consumption. Diesel is cheaper to power than petrol OR Electric atm. Price of electricity has been going up in recent years. Plus turbodiesels get ridiculous torque, just not instantly like EVs.
H6 not V6 but otherwise good points.
Most Outbacks have the 2.slow
Ah, gotcha, I didn’t know the “V” or “H” was based on the engine shape. That makes sense. But it’s the 6 cylinder version of the Outback that we bought. I believe they list them as the 3.6R version.
They’re usually named based on the arrangement of the pistons. V and W engines are pretty clear, H engines are a type of “flat” (or “horizontally-opposed”) engine with two pairs of horizontal pistons.
It’s worth it; it feels like driving an EV with how quickly it picks up speed
Doubt.
Just checked it and if I got the right model, 0-100 is between 7.2 and 8 seconds, depending on the model year. Mid range EV SUVs such as the Enyaq are between 5.5 and 8.7 seconds, so way below the outback if you don’t pick the low end version. Performance-centric EVs are below 4 seconds. And they all have a more or less constant torque which just isn’t possible for ICEs.
If you like your car that’s fine. But combustion engines aren’t even close to how EVs drive.
That’s firmly in Ford Escape territory🤣
The h6 is only fast if you just got out of the h4
“Fast” is always relative.
between 7.2 and 8.0
between 5.5 and 8.7
So slower by 0.7 sec? Unless only you are allowed to cherry pick from the data.
Pick a performance version
Okay then pick a performance ICE SUV to compare to and not a Subaru Outback.
Constant torque
This isnt the 1950s. Most vehicles have very flat torque curves when they’re in the power and high gear counts in their auto transmissions to provide this, as well.
If you like EVs that’s fine but the driving dynamics of EVs and ICEs is basically the same when actually in use.
So slower by 0.7 sec? Unless only you are allowed to cherry pick from the data.
The Subaru is specifically the rare higher performance engine, so comparing them to the higher performance versions of comparable EVs would be the only fair thing to do.
the driving dynamics of EVs and ICEs is basically the same when actually in use.
Absolutely not, but hey, whatever you want to believe that makes you happy.
Larger engine, yes. High performance? Absolutely not. It’s only 71hp per liter(257hp from a 6cyl 3.6L). It was tuned to run off regular gas. Honda had a car that made 120hp per liter(NA model, 240hp from a 4cyl 2L) and they stopped making it over 15 years ago. The Honda was naturally aspirated same as the Subaru. Hell, the current gen Miata makes 90hp per liter(and ~1300 pounds lighter). The subaru is…slow. Even staying in the world of ICE.
so comparing them to the higher performance versions of comparable EVs would be the only fair thing to do.
Let’s hop back to that Enyaq…5.5s? Yeah for the 340hp top of the line model that costs nearly twice what a 3.6L Outback does. So much for ‘comparable’. The Enyaq 80x is the most comparable at 261hp to the subie’s 257hp and it’s up at 6.9s. Both are AWD. Still faster than an Outback but by like a second? Not a huge deal in your everyday commuting.
The 2019 Outback(last year with 3.6) started at $35/39K with a 3.6L(limited / touring trims). Adjusting for inflation to 2021 and that pulls it up to $37/41K. The Enyaq 80X started at £46,610 in 2021. Just converting to USD using Google that’s $64.5K. It’s a pretty hefty amount more.
I wish there were $5k EV trucks that can tow
I wish there was $5k anything
For the low low cost of $5k, I can sell you $4k. Would that work?
I have this coupon for 25% off, so sure!
I’m sorry, but this coupon appears to be counterfeit, thereby incurring an extra penalty cost of 10%.
Just wait a little for that hyperinflation to kick in and will have some $5k eggs.
I exclusively buy used cars directly from other people. I’ve only paid cash for every car I’ve ever personally owned; I don’t believe in haggling with dealerships. My first car was $1K, my second car was $3K, my third was $2.5K, my fourth was $4K, and my fifth was $6K.
Then my sixth and current car was actually $17K, but it was a brand-new 2017 Mazda 3 Grand Touring edition with only 7K miles on it. A buddy bought it as his college commuter, then didn’t start up classes for a few years. It sat in his garage, mostly untouched for 3 years. Then COVID hit and he decided to sell it for extra cash, so I got it for super cheap.
The key is to take the used car to a repair shop before you buy it (preferably while you’re doing the test drive) and pay for a quick diagnostic. If everything looks good, then buy. You won’t have to worry about buying a junker. Some people have really good condition cars and underprice them while trying to sell them (usually folks who need to get rid of it quick, or make some quick cash).
My wife insisted on buying a car from a dealership, since she’d only owned hand-me-down POS junkers all her life. I posted about it in another comment here, but she got an H6 Subaru Outback for 10% under the MSRP price, a deal because we were active duty military at the time. So we paid $34K for it. Besides that, it’s personal sales, cash up front, no debt to pay off or anything.
Damn I really need to replace my truck, too. When are you available to help me out? :)
I can still be gas powered cars for less than $5k that I can drive around for a decade, but that’s getting harder these days. Government auctions have been kind to me as of late.
Fam needs trains.
electric trains.EVs are only really viable if you live in the city or the suburbs and have a consistent schedule. Out in rural communities or your schedule changes weekly? Not so much. Ford offering a free charging station installation with purchase of a new EV helps but only if you can afford a new one.
And I mean rural as in you travel a minimum of 30 minutes one way just to get groceries. Upwards of an hour to work.
I dont know anybody who lives in rural areas who needs more than 200 miles of range, and I know many who daily drive EVs. 1 hour to work would be fine driving an EV. Going to the next town over would be fine driving an EV. A long road trip to the city would require fast charging, but there’s plenty of those.
Every time you wake up you have a full tank of fuel. Get an electrician to hook up another dryer plug and you can charge relatively quickly. EVs are only scary if you use more than a tank a day. Tesla fixed that with the supercharger network and has even opened it to other manufacturers. You grab a snack and take a shit and you’re ready for the next leg of the road trip.
Yeah I live like 45min from work and town and never have to charge outside of home unless I’m on a road trip.
when the head gasket blows they won’t have to worry about driving the subaru anymore 😂
Can confirm. Have EV. Have Subaru. Love EV. Hate Subaru.
Why does he have his eyes shut in every panel?
The same reason every third word seems to be bolded for no reason?
smug
He had to sell them to pay for gas
I won’t buy an internet connected car, so that rules out EVs unless I convert an old car myself.
Why not rip out the internet connection it has?
With my driving habits electric is twice as expensive as gas.
This is assuming electricity is free and gas is more expensive than it is now. The electric cars are luxuriously expensive to buy, even if cheaper to operate.
Electricity for my EV is 8x cheaper than my old V6 per mile. It’s 4x cheaper than my wife’s PHEV when it’s using gas, 2x as cheap when in electric. Even if you’re burning through tires you’re straight up speaking FUD.
Most of my driving is longer range, a lot of it in the winter, actual winter, I live really far up north.
An EV that gets me home in the winter is about twice as expensive to buy as a gas car that is good enough, both used. Difference in deprecation alone is more than my fuel costs.
I’d have to drive 50% more to justify electric over gas.
So you have a use case that isn’t the norm.
Anyone who only drives a modest amount of miles every year purchase price is almost always the dominant factor.
I just picked up a new VW awd electric and its lease is less cost to me than the 4 banger vw I leased back in 2021. CA EV incentives are still going strong down in the states.
Used ones lose value faster than gas cars because people want the newest tech. Pretty sure the EV community posted something about 2022s for under $20k
Biking is simply the cheapest, most environmentally friendly, healthiest option.
What you said is true but also irrelevant to the discussion.
Not really. Biking is a better alternative to both of the options discussed above.
Are you going to rescue these?
No? Though if someone wants to transport a few to me I’d be happy to try fixing them up. But since they’re on the other side of the planet it’s probably not worthwhile.
If you’re trying to say biking creates waste, the problem is 100x greater with cars.
Unless you like tire, breaks, bolts, chains, springs, etc. residue everywhere, keep on bike wasting. I already said what I wanted to say 🧵.
Trains are great but they also produce waste. Every transportation tech does.
Both are miles better than cars, that’s the bottom line. And bikes make trains a lot more usable here in the US since the stations tend to be quite spread out.
here in the US
Ah. I’m sorry for your gentrifications.
May your Visa go smoothly.
They should rename this community “Strips”
Ooh la la
What? How is this not a comic?
Why?
