• sparky@lemmy.federate.cc@lemmy.federate.cc
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    How does a people that experiences the horrors of concentration camps and genocide, just a few generations later, get to the point of perpetrating the same crimes that their predecessors were victims of?

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      By not experiencing the horrors of concentration camps and genocide. Zionists like to Holocaustwash their atrocities, but the people who built and now populate Israel for the most part have nothing to do with the Holocaust. Prominent Zionist leaders in British Palestine were all there before the war, and half the population of Israel is of Middle Eastern—not European—descent. In fact at least at first (not sure if it’s a thing now) Zionist Jews actively looked down on Holocaust victims and survivors as weak diaspora Jews who suffered because of their weakness, unlike strong Aliyah Jews who would never go through such a thing.

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      This is going to cause a stir but Israel is not in large part comprised of nor lead by Holocaust survivors and in fact there was a vocal refusal to deal with or acknowledge Israel because proto Israelis kept bombing schools and hotels while also murdering Muslim and Christian leaders that opposed the creation of an Israeli state in currently settled land displacing the native populace.

      Don’t get me wrong there are survivors, there are survivors who were influential in both the creation and operation of Israel but there were never enough Jews in mandatory Palestine which is why for like what 100 years Israel has called Jews to return “home” (Hok Ha-Shvut).

      It’s neither here nor there but this insistence they have some deeper understanding of the Holocaust then any other nation is infuriating.

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    ethnic cleansing

    the mass expulsion and killing of one ethnic or religious group in an area by another ethnic or religious group in that area

    genocide

    U.N. Definition

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    1. Killing members of the group;
    2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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      When this whole conflict started I definetely had sympathy for Isreal, it would suck to be under rocket and terrorist attacks frequently.

      However this response is so massively disproportioned and going on for so long I don’t think it could be described as anything else but a total genocide.

      And American is providing the weapons … disgusting.

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        it would suck to be under rocket and terrorist attacks frequently.

        Two years and you still don’t see who the aggressor is?

        In 2023 alone before October 7, Israel killed 242 Palestinians which includes 47 children. Israel killed 47 Palestinian children in 2023 alone before October 7.

        The Gaza ghetto uprising might have been gruesome and unpalatable, but it’s Gaza that was defending itself against Israel, not the other way around.

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        While it might have been a response initially, it was probably quickly seen as a perfect opportunity to finally set long-hedged extinction plans in motion.

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          It’s kettling at a national level. Virtually imprison innocent people for long enough, in conditions bad enough, and it’s no surprise that they lash out. Likud was waiting for it and used it as the pretext for the extermination of the Palestinian people.

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      Why waste a bomb when you can use no-food for free? Oh, maybe it’s a recreational bombing.

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        Yeah, this is more of a camp. A camp where they can concentrate a specific sub-population of people into.

        Don’t know if there’s a specific word for that.

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      Once they’re all in there they’ll claim “hamas is using the camp for terrorism” and just blanket it with 2000 lbs dumb bombs, while calling it a “precision strike”.

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    They plan to do what to the entire Gaza population? What was that verb?

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    Wife has been binging Law and Order SVU recently and I noticed there’s a lot of episodes where they have abused children turn into abusive adults, with the explanation that it’s a natural response of the brain trying to get in a position where it will never be vulnerable again.

    No idea if that theory has any merit, but if true I wonder if that can also happen in a larger scale, to an entire society instead of just to an individual.

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      Zionists arent victims they are supremecists. They were up to the building Israel plan (violently when necessary) before ww2 even happened. They are simply racist terrorists.

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        Most people don’t under this important point… Colonization of Palestine by European Jews pre dated WW2

        It break their mind when confronted with this historical fact as their entire programming is bring contradicted

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      It has literally been happening in the region for over 80 years. Why do you think Hamas even exists?