Laura Loomer lamented that the new pope ‘is anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, pro-open Borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis,’ adding that it’s ‘GROSS’ that he now leads the Catholic Church
It didn’t take long for right-wing media figures and MAGA provocateurs to cry out in rage over the election of Robert Prevost as Pope Leo XIV after it was revealed that he’d publicly criticized JD Vance and expressed sympathy for immigrants and George Floyd.
Despite feeling national pride over the fact that the Chicago-born Prevost has become the first American pope in history, conservative pundits and Trump loyalists fumed over the “WOKE MARXIST POPE” and complained that he is “worse than Francis,” referencing the previous pontiff known for his progressive values.
Even before the “dark horse” American cardinal was elected the 267th pope, former Trump chief strategist Steve Bannon warned about Prevost’s views, claiming that he would be a poor choice for the MAGA movement.
This is PR to try and make the new pope attractive to young and leftist people. He’s nothing new or progressive, he’s a pedo enabler who told his priests to reject the law and avoid speaking to police investigating his clergy’s child abuses. He’s garbage, just like the rest of them
That’s part for the course for the Catholics. For them their dogma is over the law. You gotta take what you can from these guys.
A pedo enabler who happens to advocate for the poor is still not good, but also not as bad as a fascist-enabler, pro-rich, pedo enabler.It’s funny how if I get in a minor collision or if I get my house inspected everyone’s quick to “It’s totally gone, have to start over, here’s a cheque”. If we can all see that an aging corporation is rotten to the core the money just pours in.
Whatever is a “poor choice” for the MAGA movement is a great choice in my book. Even if it’s about a religious figure.
He completely ignored sexual assaults.
Sounds like the Catholic Church, alright. But I’m pretty sure the MAGA crowd doesn’t give a shit about that.
Judging by all the stupidity from this administration, Trump is going to ask the pope to step down. Or try to fire him. Or ask Russia to assisinate him.
Time to Tariff™️ the Vatican!
If MAGAts don’t like him, that gives me a lot of faith in him.
This response just tells me it is the correct pope for the job
Your comment shows how strong the propaganda and PR is that they put out an article like this and suddenly you’re liking a guy who enabled pedophiles and stone walls police investigating child sex abuse. He’s garbage
My dude, just because the Catholic Church won’t stop being the Catholic Church doesn’t make a progressive pope a bad idea.
A man who protects pedos and opposes Justice isn’t progressive
I just want to add. Anyone that ACTUALLY FOLLOWS the teachings of the bible, cannot with good conscious support Donald Trump.
I think you mean actually follows the teachings of jesus. If you actually follow the teachings of the Bible you probably actually would be good with donald. You would be good with slavery. The Bible is a really f***** up thing
Fair enough
I would be surprised if there are more than a couple hundred people in the US who have ever actually read the bible.
My favorite part is when Jesus had a “spirited debate” with capitalists selling stuff in the Temple.
It was a bit worse than selling stuff. The area they had set up was specifically for people to do community service and help the poor in the name of God.
Imagine predatory payday lenders showing up to a church charity event/potluck, not bringing food, acting like they were doing people favors with 50% interest loans, and expecting blessings.
So not much has changed really…
Most people don’t read the entire bible and churches try to avoid it by doing “bible study” where they cherry pick sections that sound good. They avoid the bits about god allowing owning slaves, god telling his people to kill everyone in the area but keep the virgin young girls as rape slaves, and all the other juicy bits in the bible.
It’s a horrible book and the god character is a monster.
It’s clearly divided into an older section and a newer section, and the basic definition of Christian is the newer section defining empathy, caring, accepting of all the people. Sure there’s still some effed up stuff but what do you want from a 1500 year old book: the basic message of the new part is love
It’s more accurate to say these people are not Christian even if the use the name. They do not follow the teachings they proclaim, and have more in common with the Pharisees, the oppressors
what do you want from a 1500 year old book
The question isn’t what do you want from an old book, it’s what do you want from a book people are choosing to follow.
the basic message of the new part is love
It isn’t though.
Jesus was a failed apocalyptic preacher who basically said don’t worry about your life right now because it will all end soon enough. He thought end times would be in his lifetime.
Yes, but the message of the new testament has very little to do with the historical figure of jesus and is build around the ideas of Jesus that devolved in the years after his death. For the later church I would agree: The main message is love.
Believe or burn forever isn’t love.
That is a very protestant view of the afterlife. Some Christians share it, some don’t.
Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me. …whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Matthew 25:41–43 (NIV)
Be kind to others or burn forever. At least thats how I would read this.
That’s just silly. Many millions likely have. But I get your point.
Amen!
I knew it-- just KNEW IT-- the moment we learned the new Pope was American, I knew the MAGAt moron brigade would immediately be expecting the guy to be some gob-slobbering jackass racist like them, expecting him to start licking drumpf’s toes.
The fact the Pope isn’t going to be ordered around by King Damp Pants is going to be a talking point for Faux “news” Entertainment for a while lol
I was expecting it, too. I thought the AI picture of Trump as pope meant he had pulled strings to get an American, and was planning on combining that with his Deus Vult - tattooed secretary of defense to start a literal Crusade.
I love how they lost their shit about an American speaking Italian, in Italy, to a shit load of Italians.
The American nationalism has truly rotted their brains.
he should speak latin to really make thier minds explode.
It’s bad enough half of his speech at the Conclave was in Spanish. You know from that he’s insufficiently AMERICAN. And his dual citizenship with Peru & USA makes him doubly suspect.
MAGA hating the new pope is the biggest compliment he could possibly get
Yep I’d be crying with joy if I were him
I hope the Swiss Guard are on their toes. I guarantee there are crazy fascists only too willing to try their hand at assassination.
losing it at the fact that most evangelical Christian assholes are shocked when the Catholic Pope has different views
shouldnt evangelical have thier own “megapastor”
MAGA meltdown? No way. They melt harder than a slice of cheese on a patty
molten fake american cheese.
Woke Marxist Pope? Well shit, I just might start going to church again
Same here lol
When you start calling every leader of the Catholic Church a Marxist, you’ve seriously lost the plot. The American right is ridiculous.
They should cut to the chase and call Jesus a Marxist.
Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. Luke 12:33
Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Mark 10:21
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ Matthew 25:34-40
Why would they? They already rewrote him to what they want: white, blond, freedom, and capitalism something or other.
Ah yes, supply side Jesus
https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx
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I always see excuses from them like “that should be the role of charity” “that should be people’s choice, not forced on them by the government” etc…
It’s always sad/funny to me that they are ok with forcing the bad parts of their faith on us via the government, but reject the good parts that most non theists would support
Yeah, it was Ohio Catholics (and their momey) that put JD Vance in the running for VP in the first place. People are putting a lot of faith that this Cardinal wrote his own tweets. I wouldn’t be opposed to an anti-Trump pope but to call him one is counting chickens before they hatch. Let’s see what he does when Trump puts some pressure on him.
Peter thiel was the true power behind JD
Opus Dei is
…wouldn’t be opposed to an anti-Trump pope
Dude that’s the only kind of Pope I can get behind.
I mean, this pope is still all about protecting priests who got behind small children.
Better you behind the Pope than…
By the time they’re Pope, they’re too old to be a choir boy.
Popes choose their own name. Pope Leo seems to have been a specific selection.
St. Leo the Great was a Roman Catholic Pope who reigned from 440 to 461. He is remembered for his strong defense of papal authority, his theological writings on Christ’s humanity and divinity, and his role in meeting with Attila the Hun and the Vandals to prevent them from destroying Rome.
Did he specify already that he chose to name himself after St. Leo the Great? I’m probably out of the loop, I thought we were still guessing which one of the previous 13 popes Leos he’s named after.
The only other noteworthy Pope Leos were X, who was a patron of the arts, and XIII, who was a large supporter of the working class. The latter is also a possible influence given what he had done during his missionary work in Peru.
Trump putting pressure on the pontifex maximus? I’m not a catholic but I’d say that might be somewhat difficult but certainly interesting. You are aware that the pope is head of his own state and doesn’t give a fuck about American legislation or sanctions? The US can’t even invade Vatican State without triggering article 5 of the NATO manifesto which might cause even more interesting political turbulences. Specifically with the more strictly catholic NATO members first of all, obviously, Italy.
Is Sweden a NATO country? Trump is demanding they do all kinds of dumb crap. Is Greenland a sovereign country? Trump says he hasn’t ruled out military action to take it. Let’s be real about one thing: the day after the pope died, Trump posted an AI picture of himself as pope. If this pope speaks out against him, Trump will fuck with him. That dementia riddled felon don’t give a fuck. And when he does, I hope the pope holds his ground.
A pope could make a lot of ground pushing antiabortion and anticontraception and anti-lgbtq policy in exchange for support. It was Ohio Catholics that got Vance his VP seat. So hopefully Pope Leo isn’t a “postliberal” catholic.
It was Peter theil who got Vance his seat, not Ohio catholics. Ohio isn’t a swing state anymore
Peter Theil is a patron of many postliberal (fascist) Catholics, but he is not Vance’s only Catholic patron.
Nonsense. You seem to think the USA is everywhere and you don’t understand the difference between states and individuals. Trump has zero authority in Vatican state. The pope does not leave Vatican state and “go home” anywhere. Not ever, except for official visits. Trump can fuck wall outlets or squirrels but he has absolutely no viable way to screw with the pope - he can’t even threat to sanction the Vatican as he did with Sweden and whoever else, because the do not export anything. He can’t freeze his payments because he literally owns nothing. Right: the pope does not recieve a salary and does not have any personal belongings. He doesn’t need to pay for anything (there are people in his entourage who will do that for him) he does not need to own something, the Vatican will provide anything the pope requires.
Hell, by the time you’re a bishop the catholic church will put you in any allied country they feel like and if there’s nowhere else to go the Vatican can house you for life. The pope is basically a citizen of catholicism.
Lol OK, I guess God will protect the Pope from Trump lmfaoooo
If I’d believe in god I’d hope he’d throw some brain at you.
I mean they are the original globalists and Jesus was literally a communist so…. I don’t know, they might be right. The church just doesn’t like to telegraph it too much.
Thinking a second about this, he literally pwned MAGA
The entire conservative line of thought is backed by Christianity and American exceptionalism, and now there comes an American pope and tells “You’re not following the God’s word”. That’s a damn checkmate.
Wonder how many MAGA supporters, many of which are devout Christians, will start questioning their beliefs.
Also, lol, a Marxist Pope is top comedy.
They won’t question their Christian beliefs for a single second because they didn’t have any in the first place. They’ll turn their backs and say “The Pope went woke,” still call themselves godly Christians, and continue to spread hate. During that whole time they will never question whether or not they’re Christian, they’ll just hate the Pope too.
Yeah, exactly this. It can be confusing because they call themselves Christians, loudly and frequently - but their attitudes and beliefs have sweet fuck all to do with the teachings of Christ.
It’s kinda like the way they use ‘Marxist’ for anyone left of Mussolini. I’m not sure if it’s a deliberate attempt to shift definitions, or if they don’t understand what the words actually mean. Wankers.
It’s both, for different segments of the party. The GOP has always been comprised of the unwashed masses and the conmen manipulating them.
Yeah I mean, it’s not like Catholicism is the only flavor of Christianity.
The whole reason the USA even exists today is because a bunch of shitty religious people got ousted from England.
I know a lot of people still view the Pope as the head of Christianity but there are many Christians who would not see it that way. Many who would dismiss the Pope with a wave of the hand and not a care in the world.
The evangelical right wing Christian movement in America certainly does not give a fuck about the Pope based on what I’ve seen.
They don’t, but the neofascist movement loves the aesthetic of catholicism. Its why Vance converted. In fact I’d say that pointing to Vance and Biden as the two sides of modern American catholicism is a reasonable framing (we’re gonna ignore the catholic workers because though their deeds are great, their numbers are few).
That is the actual win, the legitimate aesthetic they seek has denied them. It’s absolutely a similarity Trump’s administration has with the Nazis. They both never think about what the church actually is, they both just like the authority the Holy Sea has and the ceremony of it all. It’s great to watch an American Pope hold his ground. I wonder how long until Trump starts publicly ranting about him. I give it until this weekend.
Much of the American Christian establishment is the type of Protestant that does not consider Catholics to be Christian.
I know that doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense but that’s how Americans “do religion”.
Baptists don’t care what the Pope has to say, seventh-day Adventists think he is actually the Antichrist. Most American Catholics don’t really care what the Vatican has to say and would resent the implication that they’re supposed to give a shit about the Pope’s opinion.
Americans just don’t do religion very well.
all Protestant religions do not accept the pope as leader, that’s the basic definition. They all broke off from Catholicism by disagreeing with something but usually it boiled down to not following the pope. Whether it was a king who wanted to divorce and remarry at will or a king who wanted to control his country or an alternate pope.
It amazes me that Catholics will ride along with that bandwagon. Like when they get that Christian Nation they want, when freedom of religion is ditched in favour of state endorsed religion, and all that remains is to decide whether it’s going to be a Protestant Nation or a Catholic Nation, do they actually think it’s going to go their way?
They haven’t thought that far ahead.
Christianity the religion and Christianity the political platform are different things. The con requires you to believe they are the same thing.
Christianity is the big umbrella of faith, Catholics are inside that umbrella and have been not so popular compared to other factions. Pope’s are catholic.
Personally I think it’s all horse shit but that’s just me.
I didn’t realize Catholics comprise less than Protestants. Still, 22% of Americans identifying as Roman Catholics is a big deal.
They don’t. Almost half of all Christians are Catholic.
A “big deal” to people that give a shit, sure.
