• Ricky Rigatoni@lemm.ee
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    Leviticus is the same part of the bible that tells people gays go to hell. And people who eat shellfish.

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      And even if they did, modern Christians just handwave away as meaningless anything in the Old Testament they can’t justify because it’s been “fulfilled by Jesus”.

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      They will cherrypick a few passages that are unique to the KJV.

      You know, the specifically pro-monarchy version of the bible.

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        Yeah, I’m not American and English isn’t my first language.

        Because of this I was never aware of how many English translations of the bible there are. I also don’t understand how anyone would want to stick to a translation as old and outdated as the KJV when we have multiple more modern and likely more accurate translations available today.

        Yet SOMEHOW these American conservatives swear by the KJV and refuse to accept that other translations are likely more accurate and better to use.

        Some even believe the KJV is the only perfect translation apparently. No other translation is allowed or even considered. I saw a video of a pastor saying that the KJV fixes the source texts. Wtf kinda logic is that?

        Sorry for the rant. Feel free to ignore it.

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          Don’t apologize, you’re spot on.

          To put it simply, the don’t like the teachings of Jesus. What they want is a metaphysical justification for oppressing other people. It’s a tool of the privileged and the powerful - the very ones Jesus spoke out against. :)

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            Yeah I recently got into reading my bible more and so far I love what I’m reading about Jesus and his teachings. I think he’d be very upset if he had to meet most of his “followers”, though.

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              Jesus-from-Matthew (you know, the one written closest to the alleged events) is definitely my least-disliked NT main character.

              Too bad Jesus-from-John (and fucking Paul) are who actually gets worshipped.

              The bit where Matthew-Jesus says that preachers are like whitewashed tombs, shining on the outside and crawling with the most disgusting filth on the inside… 🧑🏼‍🍳🤌🏼

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                  Jesus has a massive punishment kink pretty much across the board; for a character who is pitched as bringing universal love, he’s really really into describing exactly how he’s going to throw most people into an endless pit of burning shit.

                  There’s good stuff too, including excellent sales advice (parable of the fig tree, the mustard seeds).

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                Don’t say that too loudly. Most of them have such a hard-on for Roman times and anything military that being called a Roman soldier might just make them think they’re some kind of modern-day warrior instead of recognising it for the insult it’s meant to be.

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      Apparently neither do libs. They NEVER talk about the rampant heresy of fascists. They’re perfectly content with equating religion to MAGA.

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        Oh I went to episcopal school and got tested on my knowledge of the Bible.

        Yes the entire maga movement is a massive violation of the First Commandment, right down to venerating golden idols.

        But Christianity is what Christians do.

        When Quakers became abolitionists in defiance of the clear instructions of the Bible that slavery is a good thing, should be preserved, and that slaves should be grateful, they are being Christians.

        When (some) Presbyterians allow women to lead church services, in defiance of the clear instructions of the Bible, they are being Christians.

        And when the overwhelming majority of American Christians wholeheartedly support maga, they are also being Christian.

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      My in laws are extremely religious and comservative and biggoted. This year at easter, my wife volunteered to pray. She had a bunch of verses like the one in this post and just ripped them through bible teachings that theyre dicks. It was awesome

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      Except the old testament, God constantly wants pepple to sacrifie their kids, stone people to death, etc. He’s not a nice dude.

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        There’s lots of woke stuff in the OT too. The above passage is from the OT. Entire chapters are dedicated to describing an economic system where capital can only be gained temporarily, then it reverts to the original owners’ family in Jubilee years. AFAIK it was never actually implemented though.

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        According to the old testament who aside from Abraham was demanded to sacrifice his kids? Also God spared the son of Abraham and gifted them meat instead. As for capital punishment that exists, but only in cases of severe and proven crimes.

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          Yeah, doesn’t that sound insane to you? Hey, sacrifice your kid for me… ope, just kidding bro, here’s some meat for being an obedient little bitch.

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            After being thrown into fire by your own people for destroying their idols and leaving the fire unharmed? After Hajar, the wife of Abraham gave birth long after being past childbearing age?

            Nonwithstanding the Prophets we know about all had to endure a lot of trials.

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                Does the question of whether you or i believe in it has any relevance to whether or not it is internally consistent or “sane”?

                If you would watch a movie where the main character is saved from certain death by a power that is not limited by the natural laws that we humans are, is it “insane” for the main character to have unwavering loyalty and faith to that power? Would you tell the person sitting next to you how that is unrealistic and the plot is illogical?

                You made the judgement "doesn’t that sound insane to you? " while you say you don’t believe in it. So for you to make this judgement it is not relevant whether you believe it happened or not. Now given that i brought you up to speed on what happened in “the first movie”, do you still consider “the second movie” to be “insane”? If so, why?

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    Libs collaborate with fascists (as usual) in portraying religion as fascist. It’s much easier than knowing enough and having a spine to poin out the obvious hypocrisy and heresy.