• BillyClark@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    Maybe there’s been some update I don’t know about, but I also haven’t heard about Joe Biden being in the Epstein files, either.

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      Almost as if character is like a real thing. Like respecting yourself means you also respect others. Say what you will about Joe, but never got any scumbag vibes from that guy. Haven’t really heard too many surprises from the names that I’ve seen in these files so far.

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            2 days ago

            I care less about drone strikes against direct military targets and the like than I do about funding Israel’s ongoing genocide that has killed far, far more innocent people than any “whoopsie that was a schoobus” incidents.

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              Do you know that “halted” means “stopped”?

              And you specifically mentioned kids… Still waiting on that one

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                Can you read? He halted strikes without approval from the White House, which means that all drone strikes had to be approved by the White House, which is the house this Biden guy was working from.

                When it comes to the children, a quick search revealed one article from 2021 talking about 7 dead children, but you’ll also have to consider that usually those things remain hidden unless somebody leaks it, because… Well, the government doesn’t want to look like the bad guys.

                “Calling it a “tragic mistake,” the U.S. Department of Defense admitted Friday that it had killed 10 people, including seven children, in a drone strike”

                https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-admits-drone-strike-kabul-afghanistan-killed-10-civilians-children-202430704.html

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              That’s… A good thing? The full quote from the article is:

              In October 2017, Trump abolished the Obama-era approval system in favor of a looser, decentralized approach, which gave the military and CIA officials the discretion to decide to launch drone strikes against targets without White House approval.[25] This policy reduced accountability for drone strikes.[26] After Joe Biden took office, he halted counterterrorism drone strikes without White House approval and initiated a broad review of U.S. policy on drone use.[25]

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                That’s better than what it used to be under Trump, but not better than what it used to be under Obama. It does just mean that Biden had to approve every drone strike, so technically any kid that died during his presidency to US drones is on him.

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              Both are worth noting. Any president is going to make some decisions with ugly consequences that will be criticized. If you are a creep on a personal level, imagine how bad you can be with some dissociation. Trump and pals rape children personally and personally spew out lies on a daily basis.

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          Unrestricted drone warfare is more an Obama critisicm than Biden. The only creepy Biden thing I remember was him sniffing women’s hair.

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            Obama and Biden both had to approve drone strikes. It was the first Trump administration that got rid of that requirement.

            Not saying that this makes Obama or Biden better, but it seems like Trump was even worse.

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              Yeah not saying Biden didn’t partake in drone warfare, but the civilian casualties from drone attacks were significantly reduced during his term as president. He only executed around a tenth as many drone attacks as done on Obama’s term. So it is not something that makes sense to criticise him specifically on, especially when there are definitely other things to criticise him on.

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                  No apologies here, if you want something to criticise Biden on that caused significant death focus on something like the shit job he did pulling the troops out of Afghanistan. Or his lack of action, like not expanding the supreme court which could have prevented a lot of the authoritarian bullshit the US is doing now. Your comment makes you sound like a US voter who didn’t vote for Kamala against Trump because “Kamala bad too”, and that kind of thinking is also another reason we are in the mess we are in now.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if his name is somewhere in there off the cuff, but I’m honestly surprised MAGA isn’t screaming about him like they do about Clinton. I can only imagine that if he was in there for good it would’ve been the first thing Trump released.

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        There is no doubt in my mind Biden isn’t anywhere in there. For that exact reason. Trump would not be able to stop himself.