• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
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    Sharif is not politically active, but in 2024, some campaigners came to her shop and told her that Trump would be good for business and against the LGBTQ agenda.

    “I was immediately hooked,” she said

    Well, Sharif, FUCK YOU. You were immediately hooked because he was going to hurt other people.

    And now he’s hurting you (on top of them).

    Cry me a river, Sharif.

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      Why do people harbor hatred for people living their own life. It astonishes me to no end

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        Usually… a religious background. While most major religions do talk about inclusivity and helping others… They’re also filled with stories and sometimes even instructions of how to destroy those that don’t believe the same way.

        There are religious leaders that push agendas of hatred because they have the power to do so and they’re harbor that in their own heart, surrounding themselves with religion as a shield.

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          With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          I don’t care. No one is that dumb. Religious people are just evil people too cowardly to bigots on their own conscience.

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        Because they’re fed lies and projection that those people are coming to ruin their way of life. And it’s very hard to undo all of that reinforcement, a lot of dissonance and regret and introspection to navigate if they do along with all the inevitable lifestyle change required to leave that environment. That’s why even the ones who admit they made a bad call, will usually only cite the consequences to themselves and their family. If they ever come around to actual stranger empathy it will be at least another year or two later.

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        Religion or family trains them from an early age that X==bad.

        Evolution for uncounted generations tells us to make babies. It’s a super weapon to use that as the basis for “those people bad”

        It takes a lot break a person away from that mindset.

        It’s even harder if you’re raised in an area where eveyone is struggling to bootstrap.

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          Good people will naturally do good things, and bad people will naturally do bad things.

          To get good people to do bad things, you need religion.

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            I used to think that there were good and bad people. I’ve come to believe the tags good/bad are insufficient. People are self-serving, and at best, they are willing to help others once they feel they’ve gotten theirs.

            I’ve seen churches that host drag story time so kids can get exposure, I’ve also seen churches that chase off black folk.

            I don’t like the idea of churches overall, but I’ve personally known some people who credit church with steering them away from bad things and dark places.

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      I mean, at some level you have to read these people as extremely indoctrinated. We’ve got a culture of such intense xenophobia and bigotry that people will throw their personal well-being out the window just to hurt some anonymous Evil Other.

      On the other… Minnesota went blue in 2024. This person’s vote didn’t matter. Their residency added to an EC that gave Kamala Harris 10 points. They could have stayed home and nothing would be different.

      It genuinely enervating to see folks pretend like Presidential Elections are some kind of contest of individual virtues. Like, what if she’d lied? “I voted for Harris so I don’t deserve to be harassed and bankrupted and deported.” Would that have meant anything? No. She’s still going to get her teeth kicked in unless she’s got friends and neighbors who will stand up in her defense.

      I want to believe this is a moment for people to realize the fundamental nature of community solidarity. But instead it just feels like I’m reading the outlines for the next round of justified immiseration. Perhaps she should be punished for opening her dumb bitch mouth. Never talk to a reporter and people won’t feel inclined to hate you.

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        Sorry, I disagree with you.

        Sure, let’s accept they are indoctrinated. Their indoctrination is basically saying them that hurting others is a good thing as long as they are not from “the good group”. And they get “hooked” on that?

        Sorry mate, but I am one of those that, if I lived in her country would probably get hurt sooner than her (I’m autistic). If I lived in her country, Sharif would have voted to hurt me and the people like me. And she openly said she “got immediately hooked” on the idea.

        Fuck Sharif, vigorously. Because it’s on you if you want to be a piece of shit that gets indoctrinated by a “theory” that says, basically, “we’ll hurt everyone that’s not a MAGA”.

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          Their indoctrination is basically saying them that hurting others is a good thing as long as they are not from “the good group”.

          They’re raised to believe they are in a uniquely righteous and benevolent group, fighting a just war against tyrants.

          And they have ever misfortune or injustice in their lives attributed to this evil outside force.

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                No individual is that stupid. They’re just evil bigots too cowardly to but their bigotry on their own conscience so they seek other bigots that provide a fantasy and community where their bigotry is a virtue.

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    “I Never thought the man I put in office would come for my family, make me financially struggle and cause so much fear that I carry my passport when I go to the bathroom”

    I just thought he would come for your family and make you financially struggle and cause so much fear that you carry your passport when you go to the bathroom

    Seriously, drop dead.

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      The one commonality between all the conservatives I know (both rich and poor) is that they cannot or do not care about anything that isn’t obviously and directly affecting them.

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      Funny how, as a trans person, I’m always terrified in bathrooms and she voted to basically have me killed.

      She only knows an ounce of the fear LGBTQ+ people live under.

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    “I just wanted him to kill the gays!”

    Bigots getting what they deserve. Cry me a river.

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      Right? My immediate thought was “They’re against the ‘LGBTQ Agenda’? I was immediately hooked as I believe people just living their lives is an affront to me and I wanted to hurt others”.

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      Bigots getting what they deserve. Cry me a river.

      Everyone is getting what this bigot deserves. Don’t gloat. Their misfortune is ours as well.

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      First they came for the gays, and I said nothing, because I’m a fucking homophone…

      Wait, I don’t think that’s what Niemöller said.

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      Like a fish. Guess she didn’t stop to think what happens when the fish gets reeled in

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    Get fucked Sharif. You voted to hurt people, and now he’s gonna hurt you.

    Eat shit.

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    against the LGBTQ agenda

    I have a suspicion this person did not use those exact words when she described her position. Also I bet a lot of slurs were used when those campaigners arrived at her shop and convinced her they were “against the LGBTQ agenda”.

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    It also astounds me that people with names like sharif would ever feel safe voting red at all let alone for trump. But no, gotta hurt the gays for… checks notes having literally zero effects on any aspect of my life.

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      She’s a “business owner” and likely thought she was building her way up to the ruling class while underpaying her immigrant workers. She never thought shit would touch her.

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    Those who want to hurt others who are just trying to live their lives peacefully deserve to be hurt themselves. May she get roughed up and deported by ICE.

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      Byeeeeeeeeee sounds like maybe there is no LGBTQ agenda where sharif came from

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        That’s the thing. Find me one nation that is anti-LGBTQ+ and doesn’t have other oppressive policies. Maybe rethink your fucking stance if it’s only supported by dictators, theocrats, and fascists.

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      Those who want to hurt others … deserve to be hurt themselves.

      May she get [hurt].

      Yes, I stripped out some very important words, but those words don’t actually change the underlying problem: we are each wishing harm befall other people.

      She wants people hurt; we want people hurt. We’re all getting exactly what we say we want.

      By all means, marvel at her stupidity and bigotry, but please stop short of becoming her.

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        Oh oh, lets find common ground evwee bwaaddy! Peace and love! Turn the other cheek! Fuck off if you think that works. We have been pursuing that for decades. Reconciliation requires a sincere seeking of truth. It’s not in them, and will never will be for most.

        “Becoming her,” would be attacking her because of where she was born, or skin color, or religion, or sexuality. We should attack her intolerance.

        I don’t care if they are now naturalized citizens. They lied on any oath of loyalty to our constitution. They deserve the ICE treatment. They are a part of the world’s population that will succumb to strong men. They are those whom have enabled and carried out genocides throughout history. I have been them. I was raised like them. I know them.

        If 1/3 of the world’s population cannot abide by social contracts of tolerance, then they should destroyed.

        We are not becoming like them. We have to hit the bully in the face. The difference is that many of us will be completely traumatized by what we had to do to stop the bullying. We will weep and use our emotional pain to design better institutions and futures. Will they? Fuck no they won’t.

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        Oh the downvotes you’ll get from not wishing ill on others.

        Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.

        Sure, the person above you only wanted them to get a dose of misfortune, but it still seems relevant to me.

        The opposite of stupidity isn’t just the opposite stupidity.

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        She wishes harm on people just living their lives. I wish harm on those that wish harm on others. We are not the same.

        Punch Nazis.

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          I will allow you only those tools you give to the Nazis currently in charge. What are you going to let them use against us?

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            Look, a year ago, I’d agree with the point you’re trying to make. Unfortunately, the time for playing nicely to avoid escalation has passed.

            “Oh no, they’re disappearing people without due process. We better silently protest or else maybe they’ll start doing even worse things!” is not the move

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              I don’t think you understand my point: what part of your argument justifies ICE bringing harm to this woman? Do you support ICE actions? Do you support something these Nazis want to do?

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    It’s so clear she only cares about herself. If she personally wouldn’t have been bothered by it she would still stand behind her choice. Fuck everyone one else, right? This selfish piece of shit can drop dead for all I care.

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    Jesus Christ Sharif, someone told you that he’s going to come after people who literally just want to go about existing unbothered, ya know like you want to do, and out of fear you thought “hell yeah, hurt the thing I don’t understand, you got my vote!”

    The fuck?! Does it tax your brain remembering to breathe?

    Clearly, Sharif, you lack the mental capacity to empathise with anything outside of your immediate experience, so perhaps a shared lived experience is your only route to empathy with people outside your immediate circles.

    I wish you all the best on your journey to growing and hope, once your empathetic abilities are developed, you’re able to be readmitted into humanity, but I don’t wish for that journey to be a pleasant experience for you; may it be filled with fear, pain, and persecution.

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    “When I saw they were bigots just like me, I was really excited! Then I found out they’re bigots in other ways too and it made me sad :(”

    Fuck you, lady. You wanted me and people like me dead.

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      These stories often hit me with a pang of pity at first. Poor, dumb, moronic idiots, I just want to hug them and pat them on the head like the snotnosed children they are.

      But as you pointed out, they were roped in to this with promises of cruelty toward others. It’s hard to muster up empathy for that.