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Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
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The only Reddit alt I need is Lemmy.
Anything that takes users away from Reddit, and forces Reddit to compete, is a plus for me.
Being owned by venture capitalists is pretty much an assurance that they’ll turn it to shit as much as they can get away with. The entire reason people abandoned digg for reddit in the first place was because it was selling out to ad space and shill accounts and manipulation. The venture capitalists will want big returns on their investments.
That’s a fair point. Reddit has been openly hostile to its own users these past several years. It might help moderate that to have another alternative on the table, even if it too is a soulless corporate enterprise.
it got worst within the last year. they ban new users and old inactive accounts extremely fast. of course you can say its due to bots using same methods, this hasnt stopped bots in any case at all. its just targetting lowest hanging fruits.
Competition is good. Also the less data Reddit has, the slower A.I. models can be trained.
reddit is partially being propped up by google. most of thier AI comes from google, and thier moderation, BOT DETECTION,etc.
This is quite toxic attitude. You should focus on what’s good for you - not what’s bad for someone else.
But competition IS good for me.
If people start migrating to better experience and better communities, they’re going to have to step up to stop the bleeding.
Reddit can get away with making terrible user experiences and killing 3rd party solutions because no alternative has lured enough of their base away.
I don’t agree. We’re not talking about a person or a charity. We’re talking about a VC-backed company. They can fuck off and die, and it’s not toxic – it’s just common sense.
Eh, what’s bad for capitalists is what’s good for the rest of us
Idk, I think there are also legitimate arguments for piefed !
We can have both, thats allowed :)
Such as?
This is just off the top of my head.
Grouping comments of the same posts posted on different comms for one.
Keyword filtering to fade or outright block.
Idk if filtering is in Lemmy, but grouping comments definitely isn’t.
To add to the other comment, the fucking blocking functionality just works.
On Lemmy it’s half assed so you can’t completely defed/block:
- If someone crossposts it to another instance it appears on the feed
- If you (as a normal user) block an instance you still see the crossposts and their users
On piefed you have many block options and they just work.
What’s piefed? I looked at it and mostly saw lemmy instances.
It’s an alternative to Lemmy with some different features. Since it uses the same protocol under the hood, its instances federate with Lemmy. There’s more info on the differences here.
It’s like Lemmy, but it has more features because the devs aren’t tankies and they actually do work instead of just denying genocides all day
Tankie you say
AI image
real ICE vehicles are unmarked
Are there any plans to improve Piefed’s RSS feeds? I primarily browse through Thunderbird, and Lemmy’s feeds are a lot more content-rich
Sounds like a good question for @rimu@piefed.social
Silly question. Is Reddit still banning comments that say Lemmy?
I don’t have an account.
I heard that was highly community-dependent - the more high-profile a community the more likely for it to be removed.
Dunny. I’ve mentioned it a few times. I don’t think they’re still removing them but I bet they are still suppressing them
I have a link to my Lemmy profile on my Reddit profile and not even shadowbanned 🤷
they dont care about links as much as if you commented with the links in your posts. and also if your account is old and active enough they are less likely to “ban you”
I could go for a text only version of this
That’s what Usenet was.
yeah it was pretty good I was there
I miss it. SLRN and proper score file made it the best information tool on the internet back in the day.
I’m starting to agree. Was a bit quiet and every other post oddly seemed to be about Linux when I first signed up, but now I really like it. I’ve decided to stay.
I felt this place was a ghost town when I first started - maybe 10 posts a day. Now, there is plenty to read. Partly due to me finding more communities and overall more people here.
I dug Digg once upon a time. When they tried to undermine the power users, I found Reddit. Then Reddit enshittified. Now I got Lemmy. It’s where I want to be. No company behind it, milking the users.
Yep, I’m ready to read the news that this platform surpassed the user base of Lemmy on the first day and never looked back. And I am ready to not be bothered by it.
Good on them for any pain they inflict on reddit. And I do hope the fediverse takes over the global media landscape because that is better for humanity than corpo-governmental gatekeepers. But if Lemmy’s user base just hangs around in the tens of thousands rather than the tens of millions, I am content.
I disagree about being content with a small user base, I want more niche communities beyond News/Politics, Linux/FOSS, and memes.
I have mixed feelings.
On one hand, agreed @ wanting more variety in communities.
OTOH, Lemmy already has too much fucking politics. I don’t want whatever’s infecting reddit to become even MORE prevalent here. shudder
How much worse could it really become in terms of politics? It already feels like 60% of posts are politics, and jumps to 90% if you include the “Windows/Google/AI bad, use Linux/Librewolf/Selfhost” posts.
Well, I block posters and communities pretty quickly when I see politics. I already feel like I have to add to that list way too much. Worse would be “I can’t even click Next without needing to block another one”.
I hate the idea of “blocking” a user or community, to me I hear “block” and imagine a user who harasses me or posts actual spam, whereas someone who comments politics a lot might also comment non-political stuff I’d like to see, or if an event is big enough I could see cross posts in more niche communities. I wish there was a “show me less of this on the front page” option.
Yeah, I get that, like blocking should be an extreme step?
But for me it’s kind of a defensive measure. I feel political-flooded basically all the time online. There’s no respite, so I have to carve out what sanity I can.
Sorry for being off topic (from the article), but I have a little community of translators on lemmy.ca if you’re interested in niche communities.
What? Where? Nice!
Hi! It’s !translators@lemmy.ca Hopefully, I did the link right. I just started it a few weeks ago and I’d love to see more activity from others.
Joined, thanks!
Be the change you want to see in the world
It’s effing hard. Doubled the numbers on one community after a year. Both of us are a bit depressed by that.
Oh I want those things too. The current size of Lemmy is not my ideal. It’s just really really nice in its current form for me as a unique little nerdy place hidden in plain sight from what most of the internet has become.
It was more the juxtaposition of how the world needs all these open technologies that people band together to create for the good of all, buuuuut if nobody notices this particular one then that will serve my personal interests. And to be clear I’m not hoping for that or trying to hold it back. Just pointing it out. :)
Pre-digg immigration OG reddit user here. The enshittification of reddit started when digg users joined en masse and flooded the site with advice animal memes and f7u13 macros.
As someone with a 20 year old Reddit account, I have to say I agree. The character of Reddit did change noticeably when digg users came over. And that’s fine. But it definitely happened.
Someone will have to let me know because I’m not wasting my time there. I’m going to keep wasting my time here. It’s a fantastic waste of time
There are hundreds of us. Maybe thousands!
Its just me using thousands of accounts! In fact, you’re just one of my alternative accounts too Muahahahaha
They’re betting that AI can help to address some of the messiness and toxicity of today’s social media landscape. At the same time, social platforms will need a new set of tools to ensure they’re not taken over by AI bots posing as people.
“We’re banking on AI as a competitive advantage but also, here’s why it’s bad” is quite a business strategy
This is a rerun, and the fediverse is better
Ooohhh a venture capitalist social media platform! I wonder how and in how many overly creative and putrid ways that site will try and fuck me over, inside and out.
Yeah, hells no
Wasn’t a lot of their tomfoolery why people relocated to Reddit to begin with?
Yes, people despised the changes they’d made and reddit was a breath of fresh air at the time.
It’s the same as here, and Reddit. All these sites are the same.
Yeah, I really hate how the Lemmy corporation abuse their users. Yesterday they released the new Lemmy subscription, Lemmy Plus, which removes their gazillion ads and their other shenanigans. Crazy stuff. Using the official Lemmy client is also pretty annoying, I miss using Lemmy third party apps. Overall I really wish there was an alternative free and open-source platform to escape to. Would be cool if it was also federated so no one is truly in control of it
Lemmy has VC funding?
I actually think the lack of funding means Lemmy doesnt have the same incentives to enshitify itself.
Lemmy did have some funding for anyone curious but the good kind.
We left Digg for Reddit, then they enshitified Reddit so we went to the fediverse and now they want to bring Digg back. The turd just circles the toilet bowl endlessly.
Bc people keep putting money into it, thereby incentivizing the continuation of the never-ending cycle…
Reddit was the Digg replacement.
oh how the turn tables
EDIT: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
EDIT: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
shudder
They are going to use Ai to moderate, lol… That will be fun to watch.
I’m a little half and half on it. A lot of people like myself are fed up with the obsessive way AI is pushed into everything, but I can see it having uses.
For instance, sifting through 20,000 “This user didn’t accept my argument evidence” reports to find some that have merit; that can be worthwhile, even if all it does is alert a human to take a look and make a full judgment. Besides, the bar for quality moderators on sites like Reddit is low.
Let’s also remember that AI has many different meanings. It depends on what technology they’re using. AI is just literally a type of computer program that can be used for a variety of things.
How low are we talking?
They already do on Reddit…
i wonder if it could be tricked into banning wrong people
It won’t get a chance; I’m not making an account.
Not banning good people, banning wrong people.
I don’t know man, but Lemmy and the Fediverse seems to be a more mature ecosystem than that. Digg just looks like a stripped-down version of Reddit with no specific feature
it was the OG reddit, before reddit took over.
Sounds like an unholy wedding of AI and privacy nightmare to me.
Sooo, Digg started to monetize, Manipulate the feeds for money, allowing Reddit to swoop in and steal their lunch. Doubled down as the platform emptied, now 15 years later, they say Trust me, Bro?
Fediverse ftw
Plus, Rose suggests Digg could use signals acquired from mobile devices to help verify members — for instance, the app could identify when Digg users attended a meetup in the same location.
Maybe I’m being paranoid, but this does not sound like a good thing for privacy.
“Hi! We’ve just noticed there are 2 other members of d/footfettish next to you, go say hi!”
Low key win for kink communities.
You are absolutely right about that. Passively detecting your location? Fuck that. We are getting into an era where bots are overwhelming and user verification is a valid topic to discuss. I think additional device permissions can be one element in that discussion. But this idea he popped off the dome is a miserable example of such.
Digg is coming back?
Whats next?
Fark?
Rotten. com?
Fark never went away. I still browse daily.
it still exists? wow.
Yeah, me too. Never made an account, but the headlines still give me a chuckle.
rotten will make a comeback if any of those “save the children” bills get passed.
