I don’t think I’m acting like that at all, and I’m wondering how my comment was perceived that way. I was specifically talking about how societal standards affect women.
But you’re right about the double standard when it comes to steroid use. People talk about what a great guy Hugh Jackman supposedly is, but he was never honest about how he abused steroids to achieve his physique for wolverine, and before those shirtless shots he would dehydrate himself. It really bothers me how he was willing to do that to himself but then never talked about it on any sort of media as far as I’m aware. He should’ve been forthcoming about what he had to put himself through to achieve that body, and how unrealistic it is for regular working men to look like that.
To be fair, the fact that we have this information about how he achieved that physique could be because he was honest about it. But as far as I know this information was acquired through other means. Maybe I’m wrong about him.
This is a conversation that needs to be had a lot more often in our society. The patriarchy hurts everyone, not just women.
and yet the post making fun of deadbeat dads has all sorts of comments saying it’s an unfair stereotype and accusing the person making it of being a stuck up manhater 🙃
That may be true in your personal experience but just look at the comments in question. The way they’re worded just screams man. The sort of judgemental comment where they think they’re being supportive or some shit but just come off condescending, completely ignoring their male privilege.
To me, it’s the pervasive assumption that people get surgery for the people looking at them. That and they really don’t care that chuds on the internet wish for them to be “natural.”
Exactly. They do it for themselves. If you’re not going to be supportive of their decisions, don’t say anything at all. Lemmy is awesome, for the most part, but it leans heavily male and is often not a terribly welcoming place for women. I’ve given up trying to explain these things in a tone that won’t get downvoted, so I’m just blunt instead and accept the downvotes.
Be like the lady in the meme. Say what you want bc you want to say it. Never think about downvotes. Mostly bc they don’t matter but more importantly, you’ve seen what those kinds of people upvote.
Eh. Most often you’ll notice bad work with fillers and other surgeries. “Botox” is code for “women getting work done that I as a man on the internet don’t like.” (Not that you’re doing that)
So 2/2 comments on this post so far are judging women for getting Botox. I wonder how many more men are going to weigh in on this.
Men do the same thing for men using steroids?
You’re acting like “they want to look good for themselves” only applies to women by calling out men.
I don’t think I’m acting like that at all, and I’m wondering how my comment was perceived that way. I was specifically talking about how societal standards affect women.
But you’re right about the double standard when it comes to steroid use. People talk about what a great guy Hugh Jackman supposedly is, but he was never honest about how he abused steroids to achieve his physique for wolverine, and before those shirtless shots he would dehydrate himself. It really bothers me how he was willing to do that to himself but then never talked about it on any sort of media as far as I’m aware. He should’ve been forthcoming about what he had to put himself through to achieve that body, and how unrealistic it is for regular working men to look like that.
To be fair, the fact that we have this information about how he achieved that physique could be because he was honest about it. But as far as I know this information was acquired through other means. Maybe I’m wrong about him.
This is a conversation that needs to be had a lot more often in our society. The patriarchy hurts everyone, not just women.
and yet the post making fun of deadbeat dads has all sorts of comments saying it’s an unfair stereotype and accusing the person making it of being a stuck up manhater 🙃
bruh the only people I ever see randomly accusing women of getting cosmetic surgery are other women.
That may be true in your personal experience but just look at the comments in question. The way they’re worded just screams man. The sort of judgemental comment where they think they’re being supportive or some shit but just come off condescending, completely ignoring their male privilege.
Yeah you have a point, women are more “I bet she got plastic surgery” whereas men are more “She looked better without plastic surgery”.
To me, it’s the pervasive assumption that people get surgery for the people looking at them. That and they really don’t care that chuds on the internet wish for them to be “natural.”
Exactly. They do it for themselves. If you’re not going to be supportive of their decisions, don’t say anything at all. Lemmy is awesome, for the most part, but it leans heavily male and is often not a terribly welcoming place for women. I’ve given up trying to explain these things in a tone that won’t get downvoted, so I’m just blunt instead and accept the downvotes.
Be like the lady in the meme. Say what you want bc you want to say it. Never think about downvotes. Mostly bc they don’t matter but more importantly, you’ve seen what those kinds of people upvote.
It’s not the getting Botox that is bad, it’s getting it done right that is hard.
Eh. Most often you’ll notice bad work with fillers and other surgeries. “Botox” is code for “women getting work done that I as a man on the internet don’t like.” (Not that you’re doing that)