Proved wrong

He was about to say that again before he was cut off.

I honestly don’t lmao, it’s been chuds pretty much as long as I can remember

So much writing when you obviously didn’t read it. I’m making fun of a chud for acting like they’d even care if a man seemed dangerous. Yes, conservative men are significantly less likely to be conscious of rape culture. No, being into socialism doesn’t inocculate you from being a bad person.

You guys are so committed to delivering the redditor experience that I’m gonna ignore you now.

Edit: Rape culture depends on men not challenging the overtly harmful values and attitudes of other men. It persists exactly because men don’t hold their friends accountable for their behaviour. Men are not taught to identify this behaviour effectively and are statistically unlikely to challenge it as they fear social ostracization (especially if they subscribe to hegemonic masculinity willingly) Want to make this clear in case there is one person on here who isn’t a smug incel because of my nagging sense of responsibility in the misinformation cesspit this sub obviously is.

Except reddit has also gotten more fascist in the past year because of bots and emboldened chuds.

Yeah it is a shame that this alternative to reddit seems to have attracted a lot of the dudes who made that site so obnoxious.

Guy: talks about how unproblematic he and his buddies are.

Me: Checks inside.

It’s all him puffing himself up about shit he doesn’t know about and bitching about the woke left.

I’m sure you’re very good at detecting dangerous men in your family and friend group.

Wow so comment sections here are just men patting each other on the back eh

Your victim complex is massive my guy. The reason people shit on you for saying this is because the act of saying it implies it needs to be said. You don’t even read your criticism but you assume it isn’t constructive because you imagine it isn’t.

Once again because obviously you don’t like reading: It does not fucking matter if most men aren’t rapists when overwhelmingly most rapists are men and most men do not challenge rape culture. That does make most men dangerous for women. Reconcile that with your experiences.

Right now, you are an example of how men make themselves a problem by not even considering they’re wrong because they’re insecure about being a man. Nobody is fucking saying men don’t get victimized, they are correctly identifying that nearly 100% of cases of sexual violence is directed at women and the vast majority of men are complacent in a culture that perpetuates that violence. Making it about you because you don’t like the association of manhood with sexual violence is in fact detrimental to discourses that seek to acknowledge sexual violence at all.

You DENSE mother fucker.

tldr

You guys hate it when people can read you beyond your control.

Edit: people can see who you are even if you don’t want them to. Many of you are too uncritical about your values to hide them so you say them plain without even realizing.

Oh no, a potential feminist sex-activist saw the meanie queer online and will no longer assassinate Donald Trump. Why did I have to be such a meanie oooh the hubris and righteous fury!!

Edit: lookit that i got to make the joke. Seriously though, this makes men sound more fragile than I ever presented them.

Very interesting to learn that the reddit alternative that attracts tech-users/-career workers also happens to express insecure masculinity openly on this version of a feminist subreddit.

Now THAT seems satirical, only a fool would think internet arguments aren’t productive…

Every woman I’ve met. Statistically the majority of women have experienced gender based and sexual violence and that rate increases depending on class, race, gender, sexuality. It does scare men to realize that they can be labeled a sexual predator for groping when they were drunk or jokes about rape.

Username suggests this is satirical but comment history is inconsistent with that theme.

Just in case: “Alienating” people who are already not interested enough to change isn’t a loss. You don’t focus on reaching those people, you make them too uncomfortable to be vocal. It’s why eco activists don’t give a shit if a boomer is mad about them blocking traffic, their goal is to make sure the boomer can’t drive home in comfort. Comfortable people are the lifeblood of this system.

The rest I don’t think people will care about enough to respond to like, yeah conservative and liberal men are caged by individualism we all know that already and they never shut up about it.

Edit: i regret not making a joke about the one guy who was about to become a feminist sex-activist and assassinate Donald Trump but saw the meanie queer online say that men need to be better and then he just gave it all up and signed up for rape school.

You didn’t have to tell us you are a man, it was obvious. What you just did is provide a great example of why we need better education on gender based and sexual violence.

Firstly, there is almost a complete certainty that you know a rapist and may even be friendly with one. The overwhelming majority of sexual violence perpetrators are men and that violence is facilitated through the nuclear family model and social ostricization of men who challenge rape culture.

I have had multiple women in different generations of my family disclose sexual violence from men beloved by dozens of people who were none the wiser. I have sat at tables where men make jokes about getting women drunk on purpose like it doesn’t reflect lived experiences only for other men to laugh along enthusiastically or nervously. I have been in classes where men discuss harassing women in the workplace without it being challenged. I could not name the amount of friends I’ve lost when I challenge them on their views, all of them have been men. Every one of those personal experiences reflects statistical data we have on sexual violence rates and rape culture reproduction.

You seem to have this fantasy that rapists are men who jump out of the darkness to prey on strangers, but they’re your friends and family who prey on those you know. They do talk about it, all the time. Whether they’re talking about the act of rape or why rape is okay, they talk about it. You cannot insulate yourself from this culture without abandoning the responsibility to challenge it.

When you say shit like, “not all men,” you’re admitting to an insecurity you have about the potential injustice of rape accusations and the association between manhood and sexual violence. Too bad, you’re in it and have to choose to challenge it or continue to participate through inaction. The fear of false rape accusations is almost completely unfounded in a world where women face consequences for reporting and convictions of sexual assault are so difficult to get. False convictions are so statistically rare and acting like they arent shows that you value your comfort more than believing victims. Men are the vast majority of rapists and most women have experienced gender based or sexual violence at one point in their lives. As long as they exist in a culture where that violence will most likely come from men and most men do not challenge it, manhood will be associated with sexual violence. When you say that if a cartoon rapist should ever appear you’ll give’em a wollop, you’re subscribing to an imagination of sexual violence that obscures the reality of its frequency and potential vectors. You’re telling the women around you that you do not care about what they experience and only think of rape as a vector for you to fulfill the masculine fantasy of violently punishing a rapist to protect the poor, helpless women.

This is all of course ignoring your fundamental misunderstanding of what rape is when you discuss it as though it’s a form of sex. There is no discussion to be had about whether men kiss and tell about rape because rape is not sex. It is about violence and power. It happens at high rates in highly patriarchal societies exactly because of the brutal hierarchy of power that must be maintained for that patriarchy to exist.

I don’t care if most men don’t rape, most rapists are men and the greatest resistance we get to challenging rape culture is from men. If that bothers you, learn.