This young evangelical guy is one of the most popular man in the US. Many americans respect him.

He said Joe Biden was an illegitimate President because Trump won the 2020 US Presidential Election.

He had no issue when JD Vance falsely accused Haitians in Ohio of eating cats and dogs. It didn’t bother him at all that these people received death threats.

He praised Trump for sending people with no criminal records to prison in South America (1) (2)

He said the US had wonderful gun laws that shouldn’t change. He thinks Canadian gun laws are silly.

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

I don’t condone violence or murder. But I’m not going to cry either. Sorry.

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    You didn’t need to condone it. He did so it’s not an issue of your morality, it’s an issue of his morality.

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    Kirk said gun deaths were worth it to keep the 2nd Amendment. I’m sure he’d include his own in that opinion.

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    i’ll save my sympathy for the victims of evergreen high school who also had a school shooting but who won’t get covered because the media will be swooning over this ghoul.

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    I like to judge people by their own standards, making sure to apply their own ideology to them. This is why I’m perfectly fine with fascists getting shot, or conservatives going hungry or without medical care, or bullies being beat up, or bigots being ostracized. It’s all tragic… But it’s what they wish for, so I’ll celebrate for them.

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      Dude literally said some collateral damage is a-ok in defense of the second amendment. Remember him for who he was and knowing he was perfectly fine with other people going out this way, so why is he any different? He reaped what he sowed.

      And I’m seeing a bit of “well we shouldnt celebrate this” type bs. No. Fuck that, full stop. If you’re such a miserable sack of shit that people celebrate your death, then be a better person when you’re alive if you don’t want that. You don’t get to ignore human decency your entire life and then cover behind it in death.

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        Not the literal meaning of spiritual, but yes absolutely. I try not to be apathetic but I’ve been more or less beaten into it; so the least I can do is be selective.

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    No tears for a dead fascist, but I’m already dreading the swing back. The fascist regime that Kirk carried water for will have no reservations on using his death to execute further crackdowns on opposition.

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      It was probably a rightwinger who did it anyway, just like it was a rightwinger who shot Trump and did the Vegas Tesla car bomb. Night of Long Knives incoming

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      Meanwhile it’s only been a few months since the assassination of a democratic lawmaker in Minnesota but it’s been crickets since then.

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    I will not celebrate violence. I will not celebrate murder. It’s wrong.

    I’m sure he loved his wife. He loved his church. He loved his kids.

    But this very same man had no issue with throwing men with no criminal records in horrific south american prisons. Men who simply wanted a better life.

    He had no issue with spreading lies about election results, even if the result was violence.

    He had no issue with lying about Haitians eating pets, even if they received countless death threats.

    He believed Canadian gun laws were silly, any angry man should be able to easily purchase guns.

    I don’t want to sound like a horrible monster, but it’s hard for me to feel empathy.

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      "Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army.” - Brennan Lee Mulligan

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      “I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics,” - Charlie Kirk

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      I will in fact celebrate his death. We got here because we allowed tolerance to go WAY too far. Shame needs to make a comeback and if you actively advocate against other people being treated with basic decency, then your death deserves no decency itself. Respect is a two way street - a social contract. You break that and no one owes you shit.

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      I mean, I feel sorry for his kids. They didn’t choose this life. But I would have felt sorry for them even if he didn’t get shot.

      He chose his lifestyle. He upset a lot of people and actively defended gun violence. And that did him in.

      So it goes.

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      there’s no need to celebrate his death. it’s enough merely to acknowledge the fact that the world is a better place without him, however it happened.

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    It’s an absolutely terrible thing to happen, that Charlie Kirk had said was necessary to an extent. I will hold our restrictive Canadian gun laws dearly.

    And while I am against gun violence of any sort, I will be a lot more upset about and sympathetic for the victims of today’s American school shooting at Evergreen High.