• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        30
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 day ago

        Or, and this might be completely revolutionary towards your thinking…

        Maybe how you approach politics is harmful and supports rightwing movements.

        • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          18 hours ago

          Maybe how you approach politics is harmful and supports rightwing movements.

          I feel like “vote for the prevention of the accession of fascists” should resonate with more people than “let the fascists win to teach the DNC a lesson” did.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            18 hours ago

            But what you feel doesn’t matter, because we took the data on this, and the exact approach you outline led directly to fascists getting elected.

            • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              18 hours ago

              Sure, man. Voting for Kamala somehow equaled a vote for Trump. Not sure how that tracks but if you say so. 👍

                  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    Honestly, if you really need it explained to you at this point, I have to assume you are asking this in bad faith.

                    Go ask @SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world to explain to you how you’ve become the villains of your own narrative.

                    And in the most superficial terms, the exact kind of framing you are using right now is what was used to hand Trump the election. If not for people doing exactly what you are doing now, we probably could have gotten Harris over the finish line to a W, but for the reasoning you are using right now. And since its been so well studied and is incredible obvious now, we must simply assume that those asking/ following that line were never interested in a Harris W, and that it was always in bad faith.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            25
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 day ago

            a political moderate who supports democrats not right wingers.

            Oh! Like how Chuck Schumer makes is able to make the claim of being a political moderate! While dogwalking Democrats to break with the party to protect the filibuster.

            Of course. This is soooooo supportive of Democratic policy positions.

          • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            ·
            1 day ago

            Democrats are right-wing, liberalism is right wing. If we overlaid the political scale from 1980 and today, Democrats would be to the far right of Reagan.

              • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 hours ago

                Democrats focus on social issues like abortion and gay rights because it doesn’t impact profits, when they should be focused on economic issues like wages, housing, education, and healthcare. Focusing on people’s needs first will fix the social needs later

                “The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and real justice.” Malcolm X

                • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  25 minutes ago

                  Except both those issues were wedge issues chosen by Republicans to gain votes from the religious. Those weren’t major platforms for Democrats until Republicans forced the issues.

                  The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and real justice.

                  Those victories are very much NOT symbolic to gay people and women. They are very real and very crucial to their welfare.