cross-posted from: https://kbin.melroy.org/m/usa@midwest.social/t/1306792
Trump Administration Live Updates: Senate Moves to Vote as Democratic Defectors Relent on Shutdown
(schumer wasn’t the defector this time)
what we got:
a provision that would call federal workers who were laid off during the shutdown back to their jobs. It also would provide funds to ensure that federal workers who were furloughed during the shutdown can receive retroactive pay [(the latter as required by a 2019 law defector Angus King passed)].
The short-term spending bill would additionally bar the Office of Management and Budget from implementing any additional mass layoffs of federal workers through Jan. 30.
what we did not:
healthcare
Cool, so they caved and literally accomplished nothing. Just a big fucking waste of time and republicans didn’t even have to make a single compromise.
The 8 who caved:
+Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada
-Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois
+Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania
-Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
+Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia
-Sen. Angus King of Maine
+Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada
-Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire
Please, these are just the volunteers who either have years until reelection or are retiring. We know they are just a front because Warner voted yes and then mysteriously changed his vote to no. Couldn’t be because his reelection is coming up next year. No way.
As a Nevada resident I’m extremely disappointed and embarrassed.
More than nothing. They caused a lot of people distress and anxiety. Maybe put some people into debt.
They also gained a heavy blue turnout in the last election then immediately capitulate as planned.
Fucking assholes.
And to top it all off trump now gets to go around shouting about how “The Leftist Dems cancelled your food stamps”
Which he was gonna do anyway but the Dems relenting makes them look a whole lot worse
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Democrats were literally rolling on a much needed win this past week and then yesterday 8 of “them” decided “nah fam, we can’t let that momentum to continue to roll”
Christ on a cracker someone check their bank accounts and/or driveways for new cars. And of course Fetterman is one of them.
Traitors
exactly, once Dems decided on action it should have been all in I was against Dems forcing shutdown due to cost of living issues there and long term impact but the polls say most approve of action.
It’s terrible that people have gone through what they have, but now everyone who went through that (and will still until things get better) did it for absolutely nothing. Brilliant.
(schumer wasn’t the defector this time)
Ah yes, the rotating villains. Yes they switch around now and then. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
In the end, eight broke off on Sunday night to side with Republicans and allow the measure to advance: Mr. [Angus] King, Mr. [Tim] Kaine and Senators Dick Durbin of Illinois; John Fetterman of Pennsylvania; Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen, both of New Hampshire; and Catherine Cortez Masto and Jacky Rosen, both of Nevada.
The DINOS that were trying to keep hidden before, aside from fetterman.
He only organized it and voted against it to save face. Totally innocent.
Fuck Schumer into his grave.
Nothing is final. They are voting on, voting, and then the Senate has to debate it. After that the House must come back into session to also approve it. And that means a vote on releasing the Epstein files. No one has won yet, and we are not open again.
I don’t understand all the intricate details of Congressional voting rules, but do we know for sure that the House has to come back into session to vote? Is there some weird procedural thing they can do to technically vote but not have to swear-in Grijalva?
Legislation that passes in one chamber must be unchanged to pass in the other. Any changes must go back to the other chamber to get passed again. Not sure about any work arounds that don’t follow this. And if the Gov is reopened, there is no longer a reason to have the House out of session, they just lost their excuse.
the legislation allocates $203.5 million for enhanced security and protection for members of Congress, and $852 million for the US Capitol Police.
Yay… We did it.
They know EXACTLY what they are doing. They KNOW that we will be pissed at being swindled and RAPED by these crooks but now they have tons of armed guards.
Sure would be a shame if a crowd of several thousand people rounded up every politician into the streets for a little discussion. remind them of who they work for.
Trump tomorrow: ‘see? It was them all along! They could’ve done this a month ago!’
Dems: ‘…’
Schumer negotiated the whole deal. They plan it so they can “vote their conscience” to look good for their record as long as they know it’ll go the way they want it to.
Fuck Chuck Schumer
When the status quo party can’t even maintain the status quo
You can just say conservatives.
Most Americans sound so freaking DUMB
Why would you require 60 votes out of 100 to pass any law?
Seriously, what the fuck?! This is a recipe for total political paralysis.
In Canada or Australia, you just need a simple majority to pass a law.
“Most Americans sound so freaking DUMB”, says the guy who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, and shows his rank ignorance so very confidently.
It’s not a requirement. It’s a self imposed rule set by the Senate.
The vast majority of us have nothing to do with it. It’s dumb senate rulemaking that has metastisized over the last 250 years. It does only take a simple majority to pass legislation in the Senate, but it takes 60% to end debate on a bill (this is called “cloture”). In the past, Senators would take advantage of this by simply talking incessantly until a cloture vote was called just to get them to shut up so the Senate can move on with business (a maneuver called the filibuster). At some point, the Senate decided to streamline things by allowing Senators to simply signal their intent to filibuster, so that they can just not call a vote for that bill and move on to other business. And now, since it takes literally zero effort to filibuster a bill, almost every bill gets filibustered, giving us the de facto 60 vote requirement.
Seriously, this country needs an enema, and the Senate is where you’d stick the hose.
