I have a few: Star Wars, Star Trek, MCU.
You take the good name of Star Trek out of your mouth.
Star Trek needs to be taken away from Paramount while it still has a good name.
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Jurassic Park, the last like 5 have been the same rehashed ideas along with “big dinosaur how we kill it?”
Jurassic Park is one of my most favourite movies ever. Although they come not even close to the first one, I still rewatch 2 and 3 from time to time. But Jurassic World is a disaster for me. The second one was already so bad that it caused losing my whole interest for the World franchise.
I still cannot believe how much they butchered this franchise and the initial vision for the book and the movie.
Jurassic World 1 is my guilty pleasure.
I can’t agree more with this. Wtf are they thinking.
They are thinking that they have made billions of dollars, so why stop now?
If nothing else, I like how directly The Matrix Resurrection lampshaded this. Thomas Anderson’s game company is forced into making a sequel to their Matrix trilogy by Warner Bros itself, and provides infinitely conflicting corporate views on being completely original and yet repeating the source material.
They couldn’t escape the sequel trap, but they could at least draw attention to it.
IDK if it’s still popular anymore or just tax write off slop, but definitely Scooby Doo.
I would have absolutely been in the minority back when it came out, but as someone who grew up watching it through reruns on Boomerang, I personally like some of HB’s other attempts that didn’t stick better.
As the lyrics to Running Under Water by Pain goes:
Me and my friends get no respect.
What does Scooby do that we neglect?
Currently the SC franchise is pretty much a walking corpse with the extremely formulaic plot of “the gang loves xyz and are going to see them/experience event” with little to zero prior showing that they care. Perfect example is literally the KISS crossover movie that came out maybe less than a decade ago. A basically dead band that’s been out of the spotlight for a long time and a franchise that went creatively bankrupt decades ago are a perfect match for each other… Except they had to suddenly transform the gang into KISS fans for anything to make any sense.
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I think it’s actually called Running Under Water and not Jabberjaw…
MCU has really run its course. They’ve jumped the shark
Fucking Grey’s Anatomy. Idk if it really counts as a franchise though but it’s on season 22 and hasn’t been good in years. It needs to end. I keep waiting for an asteroid to hit the hospital because that’s pretty much the only disaster that hasn’t hit that hospital yet.
More of a soap, isn’t it?
Grey’s Anatomy has had a couple of spinoffs (Private Practice, Station 19) so I’d say it counts as a franchise.
Fast and furious.
Rupert Murdoch.
Literally all long running franchises. There is a clear downward trajectory over the lifetime of franchises. It doesn’t have to start immediately, but goddamn if it’s not true for everything. Go out on top. Don’t go out floundering about the lower-middle (at best).
All of them. How about some new shit for once?
I still get frustrated when we get a big games conference to show off a bunch of trailers, and a streamer watching one will start rattling off “Oh. Soldier of Fortune remake? Bloodborne 2? God of War?” up to the title card. Then, when it’s some fresh new IP, not a sequel, everyone has a reaction of “Oh. Dunno what that is.”
Gamers are very much complicit in the terrible state of game remakes/sequels.
Imagine that. Two or three seasons for a tv show always srem like the sweet spot. Same with movies. Terminator, great. Terminator 2, even better. Terminator 3 to wherever we are now, what the fuck even is this?
I think a lot of people watch long lasting tv shows out of habit, not because they are good or holding up. Bob’s burger is the only exception i can think off, and maybe some other niche shows, if they are good they are good and if they have more to say, go ahead.
One of my favourite shows used to be community. I have the fondest memories watching it for the first time. Now every time i rewatch it i got reminded that only the first two seasons are really good, and then it just falls apart.
No way, so many examples of great shows over 3 seasons long. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, The Sopranos, The Wire, The Simpsons was amazing for a long time, 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Battlestar Galactica, The Shield… I could go on.
What? No. Absolutely not. Fuck, imagine if TNG had only run 2 seasons. Any more terrible ideas?
It’s not a golden rule. A show can be bigger if the creator has a large enough vision for it, from the start. The problem is that it’s not how the business works - if you try to make a long show you’ll end up with a cancelled show instead.
James Bond
For shame for you to say that Star Trek has run on too long.
We need messages about cooperating to create a classless, moneyless society of benevolent people now more than ever.
A what?!?!?
Please tell that to CBS. (or who ever the hell runs these hellscape conglomerates these days and owns ST)
Paramount these days innit?
SNW is, like, almost there…
Except they have so many screwups with writing it’s not even funny. Like the captain freaking praying in s02e01… Yeaahhh, Starfleet is definitely known for their faith in god and not humanity…
Yeah nah. A future that accepts all doesn’t mean “atheists only”
There are plenty of religious people in ST. The point is humanity, and especially Starfleet, are secular and logical almost to a fault. It’d be a cold day in hell when a captain goes, “Oh jeeze, oh no, I don’t know what I’m doing! Please Sky Daddy, help mee~”
There’s even a freaking episode in TOS where Kirk directly denounces Gods as a whole, even while he’s literally staring at someone with god-like powers. It’s even a repeating theme in other ways through the series.
It is wholly anachronistic to have a captain defer to religious faith. They explicitly say humanity has moved past the need in all of the first five series.
Maybe Archer has some kind of religious faith-based statement I’m forgetting, but he’s set in early Trek times, and it does not remove the fact that EVERY OTHER series before ST was sold explicitly states humans do not believe in gods for worship. Picard even basically tells Q to fuck off and Q literally has powers beyond what “God” is ever described as having.
There’s even a freaking episode in TOS where Kirk directly denounces Gods as a whole, even while he’s literally staring at someone with god-like powers.
You mean the bit in who mourns for adonais where he says “we have no need for gods we find the one sufficient”? Really? Might wanna rethink that as an example. Especially since canonically there’s a freakin’ chapel on the enterprise AND religious officers kneeling to pray. Even in DS9 Kasidy says her mother would want her to be married by a minister.
And Pike does not defer to religious faith, he faces a crisis outside of his control and outside of his role as an officer and throws a quick prayer. Oh no. The horror.
Religion has lost its stranglehold of control, but personal faith most certainly endures through all trek. You might wanna check some of your biases 'cos its making you logic fault.
You’re really reaching at straws when you equivocate a captain admitting humans have believed in one god vs a captain making a religious appeal to God.
Starfleet doesn’t condemn religion, but again, that DOES NOT mean they endorse it. You religious buffoons always utterly fail to understand what kind of humanity is portrayed.
Hell, even Star Trek’s hope for the future would do all of us a bit of good right now.
Just remember in ST humanity went through WWIII, a nuclear war before all the nice stuff.
And apparently India los so the eugenics wars because we have like a billion people and more a single Indian in star fleet in the first 50 years
Oh, believe me, that is something that has been on my mind recently…
In Star Trek, humanity evolved to become better because it had to learn the hard lessons of the past.
Sadly, in reality and today, I’m not so sure those “hard lessons” would lead to any betterment of humanity. World War III could end, and it would be like that alternative episode of enterprise, where is Zephryn Cochrane shot the Vulcan visitors in the face with a shot shotgun.
I’m terrified that we live in the mirror universe
we live in the mirror universe
A surprising amount of people spring beards, nowadays. So there might be something in your observation.
Feel similar for Star Wars. I gave the sequels a few shots but ultimately don’t really care about them. However, the transition era between the Republic and the Galactic Empire echoes what is happening in the US this second.
I was (re)watching Clone Wars around the start of the year while making plans with my partner to leave our friends and flee the country. The way the Jedi Council treated Ahsoka towards the end while ushering in an era of fascism hit especially hard this time around.
They did her so wrong and then tried to say it was her final test. Such a cop out! Surely with all your sense of the Force you should have known she was innocent. But they didn’t see a Sith Lord right under their noses, either…
That the Jedi Council is incredibly hubristic and far less aligned with the light side than they think is a major theme of the prequel era.
Maybe, but I feel like the lore has become too large for the property and a reboot would be beneficial for the series.
How many reboots do you need?
Just one made by someone who understands the franchise.
And as far as I recall, there is only one reboot in Star Trek history, it just shouldn’t have been made by JJ Abrams.
Tomb raider.
Or, wait, capitalism. Damn that’s not a franchise, too bad.
Five Nights at Freddy’s has only been running for 11 years and is a corpse of its former self that seems to have been ironically put into a machine to make more money.
The weird Sci-Fi turn they took on Sister Location was easily the worst thing they did to this franchise and has derailed all future entries, change my mind.
I actually disagree. I think the sci-fi elements, and especially Remnant, are awesome (and had been pseudo-foreshadowed since the first game). I think the problem is that the series didn’t end after FFPS and UCN, with maybe Help Wanted being allowed if it actually had a conclusive ending. Afton went from a serial killer to a serial killer with mysterious sci-fi motivations to a ridiculous slasher villain returning from literally everything.
For a moment I was looking at the ear and wondering what kind of mutated creature that was. You cannot convince me that on first glance, if you miss the actual eyes, that the ears don’t look somewhat like an eye.
