Democratic Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker is warning top lieutenants of President Donald Trump’s violent and unlawful immigration enforcement policies that they will not always have the protection of presidential immunity and that lawmakers in the future will seek to hold them to account for their behavi...
There is no real history of holding the forces of fascist regimes accountable. If you’re thinking of the Neuremberg Trials, I urge you to look up how many people actually got prosecuted and faced justice compared to the total number of Nazi officials. Spoiler: it wasn’t many.
Thinking that members of ICE or supporters of this administration will face ANY legal consequences for their actions is delusionally naive. They won’t.
Even in a magical fantasy scenario where MAGA loses all power, progressives get into office, and enact wide sweeping change to undo all of Trump’s damage and ensure it can’t happen again; the only thing that would happen to these people is that ICE loses funding and they have to find a new job. That’s it. And in reality, even if a progressive takes office, ICE funding is never going away. Just look at the TSA, we were promised it would be a temporary thing in response to 9/11. Does anyone really believe it’s temporary anymore? Does anyone expect even the most progressive politician to push to defund them?
Saddam Hussein, Muhammar Ghadaffi, Osama bin Laden. Lots of tyrants were eliminated for the way they reigned. A country full of angry people, especially a country that still has a death penalty is nothing to fuck around with.
Whether a country has a death penalty or not doesn’t matter when revolutionary justice is being dispensed.
honestly yes, defunding ICE, would be like dismantling the SS in germany. which did happen after WW2, along with the gestapo. they were declared a criminal organization, who committed crimes against humanity.
did all of them suffer for it? no, many of them were reabsorbed into other programs and orgs for the cold war by allies and even germany itself.
but those were only the valuable or lucky members (think project paper clip). most of the remaining less valuable members without good enough connections either fled or faced the nuremburg trials. even those that fled faced trials for decades afterwards.
ICE, if the progressives ever win, will likely be “dismantled” due to public outcry, if not that, its funding will be dramatically reduced to pre trump levels or lower, and those funds put into different agencies, and its less important members will either be absorbed into things like the military, “less extreme” border agencies, the police, national guard, etc. while ones who are proven to have commited terrible acts will likely be charged, if they dont flee in some form afterwards.
this of course is a “hopeful” outlook, history may repeat itself from time to time, but sometimes it plays the telephone game with itself. this is not a blue print, but a potential outcome based on history.
i guess we’ll see. but i HIGHLY doubt the next election will be fair, or have a progressive outcome.
there will likely be a full blown civil war before another “fair” election is had again.
If the US has another Civil War, it shouldn’t reunite as one country again. Too vast a gap in values.
No no no. The side that is full of fascists must go. The country stays together. I ain’t running away cos somebody else is a fascist - the fascists should be made to go away.
Yeah. Fascists will invent a neighbor just to have somewhere to villanize, pilfer, and enslave.
It’s like they want to stay high on coke basically, but the coke is slavery and fear.
Fascism is basically poison ivy.
That’s just what Putin wants. Also, it’s a very bad idea. I want those fuckers driven from power, and effective measures in place to keep them out. Everywhere in the US. I’ll be damned if I accept that even a small number of decent people should be put under perpetual rule of those assholes. That’s betrayal of our fellow countryment and of our values.
It’s also accepting their framing and handing them a partial victory when they have done nothing to deserve any concession at all.