I’ve always considered everything east of the Berlin Wall to be Eastern Europe and everything west to be Western Europe. I’d never even heard of Central Europe as a distinct idea.
To be honest I was more making a joke about the CzechHunter brand of gay porn. Pretty big staple to find a dude with that “haunted look” and then offer him money. Not specific to it that studio but the first that came to mind. But point well taken
my experience is that they get lumped in with either eastern europe or central europe depending on the context and whether on not it supports what someone says. for americans, they’re a lot like Virginia or Kentucky where “are they part of the south” will depend on who you ask, and the context you ask in
To illustrate your point, I’m from Georgia, Kentucky is part of the south, Virginia ain’t. And while I’m at it neither is Texas. Texas is its own thing and Virginia is DC
as a virginian by birth i find this stance INSANE haha. i generally go by “suceded? south.”
the thing to understand is that just as ther are multiple americas, there are multiple Virginias. NoVA being lumped in with DC? sure. anything south and west of Culpepper? what?
virginia beach and reachmond is also its own thing distinct from DC, SWVA, and Southside.
but Ketucky is SUPER different from much of the rest of the south by my experience in southen appalachia, georgia, alabama, and louisana.
texas and florida are both interesting cases of both being Sutouthern and Their Own Thing
Just to be clear I ain’t got a problem with Virginians in any way, but every one of yall I’ve met seems more “Atlantic” than southern. But I’m sure the closer you get to West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee the more that wanes.
Kentucky gets in because both bluegrass, bourbon, the derby, and because Tennessee vouches for them
You ain’t wrong about Florida either. The way I generally look at it is if you draw a line eastwards from the most southern part of the panhandle, everything north of that line is the south. The rest can be either corp or Caribbean.
As for Texas… they have a lot of southern qualities I ain’t gonna front, but there are just so many ways they don’t fit. A Texan is always show offy compared to someone from say Alabama
nah for sure. didn’t think you had issue. was just super happy it got to help us demonstrate to outsiders what i was originally saying about VA and KY. it is also reflective of my experiences of how people discuss Czechia. according to Italians, they’re eastern. according to Poles they’re central. ultimately, these distinctions are only useful in certain contexts that matter for how you’re talking about the differences. ultimately, the conclusion is we, across the globe, are one people. our local cultures are also just that: local. i expect if you and i sat down to share spoonbread, our spoonbreads would taste different, but we’d understand the differences better than someone from Maryland or Delaware ever could
Eastern Europe is a subregion of the European continent. As a largely ambiguous term, it has a wide range of geopolitical, geographical, ethnic, cultural and socio-economic connotations. Its eastern boundary is marked by the Ural Mountains, and its western boundary is defined in various ways.[1] Narrow definitions, in which Central and Southeast Europe are counted as separate regions, include Belarus, Russia and Ukraine.[2] In contrast, broader definitions include Moldova and Romania, but also some or all of the Balkans, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, and the Visegrád group.
Well, if you asked an idiot, Czechia might be defined as part of Antarctica.
The people we should ask are the Czechs.
And anyone who empathises with them will agree, it’s in central Europe.
This is not just a geographic discussion. It’s a question of whether you respect their 1000 year history of important kings and prince electors of the holy roman empire, or if you just look at the 80 years of forceful soviet occupation.
Compare traditional Czech dishes with Bavarian and with Russian dishes, you will see.
It definitely seems like a topic some are very emotional about and not just a simple geographic grouping. But I was just saying that those differing definitions exist still
I feel like you’re a bit confused about what the discussion is
FYI Czechia is not considered eastern Europe, but central Europe
Depends who you ask and what the context is
That’s shown by both the article for Eastern Europe mentioning how it is sometimes included and how it’s sometimes not included in Central Europe from your article. The article you linked just says it’s often included but that’s again what I was saying, it’s only “often” because it depends.
It’s almost always considered to be part of Central Europe. I’m aware that especially thanks to Europes troubled past, a lot of the views have changed, but according to every recent view that topic it’s very clear.
Besides that, I have enough Czech friends who share my opinion on that matter and obviously their word matters more in that regard than yours or mine.
FYI Czechia is not considered eastern Europe, but central Europe. Sorry for the smartassery, but I needed to mention that. 😅
“Former Warsaw pact countries” doesn’t have the same ring to it
Yeah and their currency is the Koruna, not the Euro.
Wait, I’m about to go there for a day trip in a week. Can I not use the Euro at all there?
Some tourist oriented establishments allow to pay in euros, but usually they offer horrible exchange rate.
No. But you likely can just pay by card.
Thanks!
Gotta Check that out!
Joking aside, wonderful country! I went there on a whim 1999 for the new year (long story) coolest people on earth! Gotta go visit again some day.
Considered by whom? Romanians?
Feast your eyes on this map of Central Europe from what I can only guess comes from Bulgaria or Romania
Ah yes, of course Central Europe shares a border with Turkey. How could I have ever thought otherwise.
Everyone who knows geography?
We had east and west Germany at school so that might throw people off.
Everyone besides you it seems.
Dudes living directly north of Bratislava getting salty about being called eastern Europe is peak eastern Europe mentality.
If you refer to me, then you got my location completely wrong. 😄
I’ve always considered everything east of the Berlin Wall to be Eastern Europe and everything west to be Western Europe. I’d never even heard of Central Europe as a distinct idea.
I think the strict East/West separation is partly a Cold War relic
Yes, the Cold War had an enormous effect on the culture of Europe!
To be honest I was more making a joke about the CzechHunter brand of gay porn. Pretty big staple to find a dude with that “haunted look” and then offer him money. Not specific to it that studio but the first that came to mind. But point well taken
my experience is that they get lumped in with either eastern europe or central europe depending on the context and whether on not it supports what someone says. for americans, they’re a lot like Virginia or Kentucky where “are they part of the south” will depend on who you ask, and the context you ask in
To illustrate your point, I’m from Georgia, Kentucky is part of the south, Virginia ain’t. And while I’m at it neither is Texas. Texas is its own thing and Virginia is DC
as a virginian by birth i find this stance INSANE haha. i generally go by “suceded? south.”
the thing to understand is that just as ther are multiple americas, there are multiple Virginias. NoVA being lumped in with DC? sure. anything south and west of Culpepper? what?
virginia beach and reachmond is also its own thing distinct from DC, SWVA, and Southside.
but Ketucky is SUPER different from much of the rest of the south by my experience in southen appalachia, georgia, alabama, and louisana.
texas and florida are both interesting cases of both being Sutouthern and Their Own Thing
Just to be clear I ain’t got a problem with Virginians in any way, but every one of yall I’ve met seems more “Atlantic” than southern. But I’m sure the closer you get to West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee the more that wanes.
Kentucky gets in because both bluegrass, bourbon, the derby, and because Tennessee vouches for them
You ain’t wrong about Florida either. The way I generally look at it is if you draw a line eastwards from the most southern part of the panhandle, everything north of that line is the south. The rest can be either corp or Caribbean.
As for Texas… they have a lot of southern qualities I ain’t gonna front, but there are just so many ways they don’t fit. A Texan is always show offy compared to someone from say Alabama
nah for sure. didn’t think you had issue. was just super happy it got to help us demonstrate to outsiders what i was originally saying about VA and KY. it is also reflective of my experiences of how people discuss Czechia. according to Italians, they’re eastern. according to Poles they’re central. ultimately, these distinctions are only useful in certain contexts that matter for how you’re talking about the differences. ultimately, the conclusion is we, across the globe, are one people. our local cultures are also just that: local. i expect if you and i sat down to share spoonbread, our spoonbreads would taste different, but we’d understand the differences better than someone from Maryland or Delaware ever could
Word! We all the same people, and our differences make us all richer culturally!
— Czech people
Meanwhile, ¼ of Germany:
Depends who you ask and what the context is
No, not really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe
You don’t make the point you think you’re making dear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
For a reminder, this was my point: Depends who you ask and what the context is
And both articles say exactly that… Even your article starts with
Well, if you asked an idiot, Czechia might be defined as part of Antarctica.
The people we should ask are the Czechs.
And anyone who empathises with them will agree, it’s in central Europe.
This is not just a geographic discussion. It’s a question of whether you respect their 1000 year history of important kings and prince electors of the holy roman empire, or if you just look at the 80 years of forceful soviet occupation.
Compare traditional Czech dishes with Bavarian and with Russian dishes, you will see.
It definitely seems like a topic some are very emotional about and not just a simple geographic grouping. But I was just saying that those differing definitions exist still
And if you read more than the beginning you’ll find out that the Czech Republic is almost universally defined as a part of Central Europe.
I feel like you’re a bit confused about what the discussion is
That’s shown by both the article for Eastern Europe mentioning how it is sometimes included and how it’s sometimes not included in Central Europe from your article. The article you linked just says it’s often included but that’s again what I was saying, it’s only “often” because it depends.
Not confused at all, thank you.
It’s almost always considered to be part of Central Europe. I’m aware that especially thanks to Europes troubled past, a lot of the views have changed, but according to every recent view that topic it’s very clear. Besides that, I have enough Czech friends who share my opinion on that matter and obviously their word matters more in that regard than yours or mine.