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      Eastern Europe is a subregion of the European continent. As a largely ambiguous term, it has a wide range of geopolitical, geographical, ethnic, cultural and socio-economic connotations. Its eastern boundary is marked by the Ural Mountains, and its western boundary is defined in various ways.[1] Narrow definitions, in which Central and Southeast Europe are counted as separate regions, include Belarus, Russia and Ukraine.[2] In contrast, broader definitions include Moldova and Romania, but also some or all of the Balkans, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, and the Visegrád group.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe

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          For a reminder, this was my point: Depends who you ask and what the context is

          And both articles say exactly that… Even your article starts with

          The region is variously defined

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            Well, if you asked an idiot, Czechia might be defined as part of Antarctica.

            The people we should ask are the Czechs.
            And anyone who empathises with them will agree, it’s in central Europe.

            This is not just a geographic discussion. It’s a question of whether you respect their 1000 year history of important kings and prince electors of the holy roman empire, or if you just look at the 80 years of forceful soviet occupation.

            Compare traditional Czech dishes with Bavarian and with Russian dishes, you will see.

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              It definitely seems like a topic some are very emotional about and not just a simple geographic grouping. But I was just saying that those differing definitions exist still

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            And if you read more than the beginning you’ll find out that the Czech Republic is almost universally defined as a part of Central Europe.

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              I feel like you’re a bit confused about what the discussion is

              FYI Czechia is not considered eastern Europe, but central Europe

              Depends who you ask and what the context is

              That’s shown by both the article for Eastern Europe mentioning how it is sometimes included and how it’s sometimes not included in Central Europe from your article. The article you linked just says it’s often included but that’s again what I was saying, it’s only “often” because it depends.

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                Not confused at all, thank you.

                It’s almost always considered to be part of Central Europe. I’m aware that especially thanks to Europes troubled past, a lot of the views have changed, but according to every recent view that topic it’s very clear. Besides that, I have enough Czech friends who share my opinion on that matter and obviously their word matters more in that regard than yours or mine.

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                  But you are unfortunately confused. I’m not arguing for their grouping in either category. I’m simply saying what they’re considered as depends on who you ask and what the context is. And that has been shown to be the case by both of us, even if you did it accidentally with your link and what you said just now.

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                    You can repeat as often as you want, but that doesn’t make me confused.

                    By any modern views the Czech Republic is in Central Europe, look at any map. The context in which you’d be absolutely correct, is an old view, especially 1947-1991. But I’m talking about the here and now. Maybe you are confused. I guess it’s best to just end this back and forth.