Can’t imagine what could possibly go wrong with this idea.
Everything except getting rid of guns.
What a rotten shithole of a country.
The only way you’re going to get rid of billions of guns is if you have a magic genie or a monkey paw.
If our country actually cared and was a force of good and peace, we would have a long-term plan for things like buyback as well as strict regulations and MAYBE in a hundred years we would be gun-free for the most part, but the guns are only half the problem.
The problem is the lack of community and the atomization of our feelings and perspectives. People don’t shoot up schools when they feel loved, connected and unafraid of their future. When people have something to live for, they want to help each other see that future.
That’s the rotten part, that’s where our country is dying. We drank too deep of the well of “rugged individualism” and now everyone is wandering around like it’s a video game and NPC’s don’t deserve second thought.
wait, how are they going to “test” this?
Recess.
Running from the gun-drones opening fire is good exercise for the kids, after all.
Gun culture.
Let’s fight gun violence with… robots with guns???
Oh man, eome kids gonna carrying a band flute case and sniped. How are we this stupid? Mark my words, irobot is gonna kill an innocent kid
Of course the password to the school’s drone control system was just “admin1234”
It’s on. Shooters will now respond with armed drones.
government to use air strikes to prevent drone powered school shootings
Shooters respond to to air strikes with IEDs.
This is so much better than passing common sense gun laws.
And cheaper! /s
Using school to practice your combat drone tech and funnel more tax payer money into the hands of the military complex. Very cool. /s
I don’t see this going wrong at all. Do you know how long a drone battery lasts? Do you trust AI to pick out the right kids to shoot?
Wtf timeline am I in?
The one where five white dudes who hoarded all the money control everything.
Ah AI only has trouble with minority skin colors so it’s not really a problem. /s
“Let’s test the new firmware in the district with the most minorities.”
You know it will happen. Maybe they’ll phrase it differently but the decision will be made.
Oh no, now the shooters have drones!
Stole it from the school.
Having attended school this hypothetical is entirely 100% plausible. More children will be killed by these drones then they end up protecting.
Hacked drones…
Now you can do a school shooting from the comfort of your own home!
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I can’t imagine that anything will go wrong. /s
Wait until the bullied nerd learns to hack that system and sends the armed drones to exterminate the jocks.
That could never happen. The manufacturer assured parents their proprietary software is unhackable.
anything but the actual, common sense, solution
They don’t do common sense over there.
Which is what? Details please. Your solution must be legal and practical. Go.
EDIT: As I figured. Angry children will no real policy ideas, no real laws to be enacted, totally ignorant of how Constitutional amendments work.
I want REAL fucking ideas, real HELP!
Lemmy: “no you”
If you’re not adult enough to comment, refrain.
Well how about stricter gun laws. Maybe about back program to get some iff the street. I mean you are the only country who has this problem at this scale so thinking there is nothing you could do is stupid.
get some of the guns off the streets; particularly automatics and semi autos. those didn’t exist for maybe the first quarter to half of the history of the country. feels like every other civilized country seems not to have these problems like we do.
Health care provided via taxes, cheaper therapy, better gun laws. Nah, it is the United States, they don’t need that.
Unfortunately that’s not going to be easy. It’s basically political suicide for any party that tries, but additionally would require reworking the constitution. Due to the document’s flaws you would need 2/3rds of states or 2/3rds of Congress.
Functionally it’s impossible due both to the average American voter and the constitution.
I mean if Trump has shown anything it’s you don’t need that. Just for it.
He’s shown the opposite. He can do what he wants because his party controls both Congress and the Supreme Court. You’d have to reverse that entirely. Basically if you control all three branches of government you can do what you want, but you also need all 3 to make reforms too.
Flipping the Supreme Court alone could take decades
Trump has shown us that we can, in fact, send federal agents to enforce laws (and then some) without so much as a whimper. So the solution is obviously to confiscate the guns.
yea not one second amendment andy is doing shit against tyrannical government lol
Not. Fucking. One.
All these “Don’t step on snek” motherfuckers are awfully quiet lately. Almost like its the same group of people 🤔
I’m loud as fuck around here. Tell me what to do with my guns. Chapter and verse, spell it out. I’ll fucking wait while you compose your answer. Meanwhile, I’ll order more ammo. Thanks for reminding me! About out of .22LR and .45! Going to practice some more at camp tomorrow. (Like I’m not already practiced, but whatever, practice makes perfect.)
You must enact this plan without running afoul of the 2nd Amendment. It exists and courts have upheld it to mean a personal right to gun ownership.
Doesn’t matter if you like it. Doesn’t matter if I like it. The 2nd Amendment is a fact. The court rulings are a fact.
So? Got a realistic plan?
Your god king has already ignored the constitution countless times in the past 9 months. The second amendment means nothing, all thanks to him.
That’s because Republicans have stacked the Supreme Court in their favor. They also control the means to remove the president.
Basically everything that has empowered Trump also works to empower true gun reform from ever occurring.
Any president that tried would not get it through congress. If they tried illegally they would be removed. You might wonder why, and the simple answer is congress. Republicans will not vote for total gun restrictions, that’s part of their brand. Many democrats also can’t vote for it if they want to retain their seats. A good example is the state of Georgia, it’s 2 senators are currently democrats, but the state had leaned heavily republican form years. They barely held their seats. Georgia is also extremely pro-gun and has more relaxed laws than even Florida. If these senators voted for sweeping bans they will lose their seats next cycle. That’s not a question but a garuntee. They would likely be promptly replaced.
This current political situation would take decades to change.
We, uh, kinda know all that. Preaching to the choir?
So anyway, how about answering the question as to how me and my guns navigate this situation?
A new constitution. Your government doesn’t give a shit about it, so make a new one.
Unfortunately that could only happen by a full dissolution of the government by force or 2/3rds of states agreeing to a constitutional convention followed by the ratification proccess.
Option 1 is likely a brutal, bloody, and global war. Option two probably will never happen. It’s a pretty broken system
That involves first shooting the 2nd amendment folk so you still need to have guns though?
Wow Americans love violence so much you can literally not think of another way, huh?
I’m not American.
There are tens of millions of rabid Trump supporters with guns. They are not willing to compromise on any single issue and if you disagree with the emperor, that’s treason.
How exactly are you going to win their hearts and minds while being a wanted terrorist (which you will be declared as, since being against fascism is now officially terrorism)?
You are a child, or ignorant of history, if you don’t see how this all goes down. Yes, mass violence is coming. Give it a few years, not happening tomorrow or next year, but once Trump’s lawlessness and economy hits bottom, people will fucking riot.
We’re not a year in and troops are on the streets of 3 major cities. The administration is tightening the noose while Trump descends deeper and deeper into dementia. Did you see the Secretary of War and the President address 800 combat generals and admirals yesterday? Called in from all over the planet? Did you hear the words spoken?!
Again to history, the planet is tuning up for WWIII. Study WWII history. I did two years of AP European History, I get it, I see it, violence is coming.
You know, it could be changed. It won’t, because you weaklings love guns more than children’s lives. But it could.
Please, do tell us what you know on changing a constitutional amendment. Spell it out, with details. What must happen?
I’m not American, I’m not going to solve anything for you. My only point is that it is possible. If you want to bury your head in the sand because it’s hard it only further highlights the lack of will. “We’ve done nothing and we’re all out of ideas.”
It’s the left their right fights for stuff constantly and their left us ahh it’s to hard. And they wonder why they are where they are right now.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the American system of government. Unfortunately due to the flaws in our constitution it’s functionally impossible.
You’d have to get the majority of Americans to support reform. Which will be hard, but not impossible. Now you can try to make it a law. If the Supreme Court rejects that law based on the constitution then you have to wait. The movement would have to continue for decades waiting for Supreme Court justices to die or retire until newly appointed judges that support the law are appointed. This is a long time for a movement to sustain power. Alternatively you can have 2/3rds of congress or 2/3rds of states make an amendment to the constitution. That would be nearly impossible.
This system is actually what makes Trump so dangerous right now. He basically controls Congress and the Supreme Court giving him a blank check to violate the law.
Talk about a flawed system
trump and by proxy his supporters, cherry pick laws (much like many religious folk do with their biblical teachings) and those who enforce them, openly muses and acts on disobeying long standing, precedented law. congress and the supreme court have abdicated any semblance of independence to the culture cult. for example: trump is trying to end birthright citizenship.
all those second amendment defenders cry foul of any changes to it in the name of protection from tyrannical government, yet tyrannical government is here and no one bats an eye.
history is repeating itself, especially when you’re following nazi playbooks. How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Dayshttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/
there is absolutely nothing normal about what’s going on and yet trigger fingers stand idly by as rome burns
Tell me what you would have me do with my guns. I can arm the entire block, if they weren’t already. Young and old, white and black, middle class and poor, gun in every house, and usually several. I know because I know my neighbors.
What exactly should the little old black lady across the street do with her pistols? Name it. SPEAK OUT.
I have one life to defend my legal, brown, immigrant wife. And I have two small children I will leave without a father.
Whatever you tell me to do, it better fucking count for something. I am listening and more than ready. Go.
look past the second amendment my child. go defend the other rights we have. here’s nine more to be aware of https://live-bri-dos.pantheonsite.io/primary-sources/bill-of-rights tyranny is at our doorsteps.
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I do not think it is a real problem.
Oh, America.
Let more children die. That’s legal and practical.
Otherwise you’d have to have legislators do their jobs and make laws.
Congress can’t make a law that overturns a Constitutional amendment. Doesn’t matter if I like it. Doesn’t matter if you like it. The 2A exists and the courts have upheld it to mean the right to personal gun ownership. You can pick away at it, with minimal success, but what are you actually doing?
Let more children die.
The “high score” for school shootings was Virginia Tech. Dude got the vast majority of his kills with a .22 pistol. Were you aiming to ban those? Or were you aiming for AR-15s, which account for <2% of all gun deaths? If you’re not talking about banning pistols, you’ve kinda failed right out the gate. Funny how no one talks that talk. What exactly is your policy and how do you aim to enforce it? I’m listening, because I also want this to end.
If you want to trash the 2A, I’m listening, but first you have to tell me you understand what it takes to change the Constitution and how you aim to accomplish that. Easy, right? Go.
So. Again. Practical and legal? Spell it out.
I mean do an amendment. You treat it like it is written in stone but do you know what the amendments are! They are changes.
Laws are made up, and the people you elect can change them. Don’t tell me that if 100% of the people in the US agreed on something, you couldn’t make it happen. The whole creation of your country was illegal by royal laws and that never seemed to stop anyone.
The people you elect are also responsible for finding experts, hiring them, listening to them, and fixing the problem.
So again, my solution is, let more children die. You have to look upwards and to your side for any better solution. Not my job, in my country we had like 2 school shootings in total. It’s barely yours. Wouldn’t be if it was getting done. When you decide it’s yours, get more people on board and demand accountability.
Right that’s the issue. Only 56% support stricter gun laws, but that could mean anything from background checks to semiautomatic weapons bans. However that 56% is not evenly spread. “Blue” states will have higher support and “Red” states typically have lower support. The issue is a state like California that has the highest population gets the same representation in the Senate as the smallest state Wyoming. Both California Senators can support a ban and both Wyoming senators can not support a ban. So just like that a state of 300,000 people negates a state with 40 million people. That’s a big flaw in the Senate.
But even with 80% support the Supreme Court could strike it down. Meaning either 2/3rds of congress or 2/3rds of states have to support changing the constitution. But if that 80% isn’t evenly distributed then senators from smaller states could block the whole thing.
It’s a terrible system that fights progress
Ah, sniper drones. Like the ones Israel has been using to shoot children in the head.
Tried and tested on Palestinian children, now ready for the open market.
Link?
Mostly I’ve heard about this from interviews with international volunteer doctors in Gaza
https://www.commondreams.org/news/doctors-describe-gaza-children-shot-in-head
