• Tinidril@midwest.social
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      19 hours ago

      Yes. Democratic gaslighting is “complete and total fucking lies” too. I was differentiating. Republicans lies offer a narrative and enemies to fight. Democratic lies try to tell people watching the American dream die that it’s all just “progress”. Of the two, Republican lies are way more viral, in more than one way.

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        Name a time when the right wing Democratic party have had a clear shot at improving things. You know since they’ve had to clean up the absolute DISASTERS that every Republican lying cheating stealing thief of a “president” has forced upon us. Every single time that they seize power, they destroy the economy and our rights. Every single fucking time.

        I don’t look to them for salvation but holy fuck at least you can count on somewhat of a sense of stability when the actual (still shitty) human beings are in charge.

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          Having a chance to improve things is a Democratic nightmare scenario, and they do everything in their power to make sure they never get that opportunity. But how about today? Today they could endorse the Democratic nominee for mayor of NYC. That has a good chance of improving some things. Or how about Bill Clinton not choosing to dismantle the federal safety net, or Obama choosing to prosecute Wall Street criminals instead of reward them? How about not kneecapping Medicare For All at every opportunity? How about not trying to be Republican lite on immigration or trans rights? How about articulating any kind of vision to compete with Republican hate mongering in the public psyche?

          It’s not all about passing legislation. Passing legislation is what happens after you have done all the real work that the Democratic establishment refuses to do.

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            I’m not disagreeing with any of that. I’m simply stating that things are ALWAYS exponentially worse when the demon spawn fascists seize power.

            I wasn’t ever thinking about converting my USD to Renminbi when Biden was in office. Didn’t expect the entire country and economy to collapse at any moment.

            So yea, things aren’t nearly perfect under democratic leadership. But significantly and undeniably better in every single metric.

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              16 hours ago

              Yeah, Republicans are worse. Got it. However that doesn’t relate at all to your comment that I replied to, or to my reply. In fact, the comment I replied to has nothing to do with my previous comment either.

              As bad as Republicans are, never doubt that it’s Democrats who handed them power - over the culture and over the government. Even now, they have learned nothing.

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          Name a time when the right wing Democratic party have had a clear shot at improving things.

          Under Obama and Biden, they had the power to improve things. Instead they chose to give handouts to their rich friends, and screwed over the voters.

          Every single time that they seize power, they destroy the economy and our rights. Every single fucking time.

          Oh, you mean like what the Democrats keep doing?