As in, not known to you IRL.

I’ve occasionally brought it up before, but a while back in my reddit days I was in a thread where a “professional deprogrammer” had popped in and was talking about how to “deprogram” conservatives and get them to shift left in their views. It centered around restoring their sense of community and belonging with more balanced viewpoint folks IRL and away from their online echo chambers.

I asked them if they had any way to convert someone you encounter wholly online and they said that it was basically impossible, IRL you have a decent chance, but not online.

I’ve been thinking about that quite a bit, so now I’m curious if anybody here has actually gotten an online conservative to come to the dark side light side?

  • DoucheAsaurus@fedia.io
    115·
    4 days ago

    I’m done trying to change minds, they’re sure as shit not changing mine. I just can’t with these people anymore. You can’t reason someone out of an opinion they didn’t reason themselves into.

    Public shaming is the way to go, it’s served humanity plenty well in the past to curb unwanted behavior and minority opinions. Shove the hypocrisy down their throats and revel in their little shocked Pikachu faces.

    Using their own tactics against them is cathartic and effective, they’re used to people trying to reason with them and then dragging you into more and more insane arguments and stances. The reins really come off when you realize you can lie just as much as they do and hand wave any counterarguments. Burden of proof? How about I just throw some more bullshit at you, etc. Quote the bible, extra points for obscure/confusing passages. Frustrate the fuck out of them, its only fair.

    • Yoga@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      3 days ago

      Shaming doesn’t work. It just makes people hide and get worse.

        • Yoga@lemmy.caEnglish
          4·
          3 days ago

          Pedophiles and child molesters are literally the most hated and shamed people on the planet.

          1 out of 5 to 1 out of 10 children are sexually abused depending on what numbers you go by (it is likely even worse based on report rates for sexual violence and commonality of trauma related amnesia).

          Shame doesn’t help anyone. In fact it’s one of the biggest reasons why victims don’t speak out.

          • DoucheAsaurus@fedia.io
            1·
            3 days ago

            Are you proposing to somehow reason a pedophile out of molesting kids? I think regular public beatings would be more effective than a 2 year prison sentence. There’s a reason they don’t last long with other inmates, they know that’s not something you talk out of someone.