• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    There are a lot of people in the world. Like a loooooot. Even if the % of non normies is only like 0.01% of the population that would easily explain those boats.

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      3 months ago

      If there was a plague that had a 100% human infection rate and killed 87% of the people infected it would still only set back world populations to around the start of the 1900s

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      3 months ago

      This is the real answer and the reason online bubbles are so sad.

      There’s so many different way to live your life and we are atrofied around a couple of equally bad options.

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    3 months ago

    I’m kinda one of them. Well my dad is. He’s typical of the boat owners I’ve met over the years. Boomer, business owner, white. He bought the first boat with a buddy in their late 20s, cuz that’s when he had enough disposable income after they could afford a house, a rental property, two kids, two cars, a dog and a golf course membership. They had a falling out and my dad bought out his buddy. Three or four boats later I look after the boat, and do all the maintenance. My dad’s in his 70s, he can’t take the boat out on his own anymore. We go fishing 5 or 6 times a year. Moorage is $6000 a year, fuel is $2000, insurance $3000, maintenance at least $2000. Maintenance would be 10x that if I didn’t do most of the work myself.

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      3 months ago

      How much difference would it be if you compare it by renting a boat for those 5 or 6 times a year?

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        We could do some absolutely amazing charters for the money we spend on the boat. It’s something we have been talking about recently. The engines on the boat are 25 years old, if/when they die my dad wants to replace them to the tune of $40,000-$50,000. I’m trying to talk him into selling it and we plan a couple really nice fishing trips per year. I think one of the reasons he spends so much on it is that it’s one of the only things we have in common. We only really spend time together on the boat.

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    I have a friend who grew up on the coast and her family always sailed for fun.

    When she got divorced she bought a sailboat and traveled for a bit in it. She then parked it at a marina and lived in it for so many years close to her kids and grandkids. She paid $100K for boat and her marina fees were $300/month. The boat was paid off with the divorce settlement.

    The cheapest 1 bedroom apartment to rent nearby was $3500/month for less square footage than her boat. The cheapest small house was around $1,000,000 or around $6000/ month at the time. The homes around the marina were all priced at several million dollars.

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      We met someone like that and they were considered homeless by the city, lol. I think they were annoyed at that.

      Seattle is full of people that live on boat as an affordable alternative. You can’t be squeamish about insects or get seasick easily because of the storms. I couldn’t do it myself, but I’ve known quite a few that have.

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      3 months ago

      This is the right answer. It’s an RV on water but it doesn’t disintegrate (working as intended, that) like an RV or fifth wheel.

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    3 months ago

    Sailboats aren’t prohibitively expensive for a normie, especially if you buy a used one. If you look at the large empty houses near every harbor though, you’ll see a better sign of the wealth disparity. The rich own multiple houses worth millions each and they seem to be rarely used while many people can’t afford a starter home now.

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    3 months ago

    A city of 250,000 people could have 250 boats (that’s enough for a marina or two) and it would be 0.01% of the population (the one percent of the one percent). That seems to not really be that crazy.

    And if you consider that a small percentage of the boat population may have 2 or even 3 boats, than it gets even less weird.

    I also think that if you live near water, people are generally at least a little more likely to get a boat instead of a nice car or bigger house or other luxury item.

    Edit: I was off by an order of magnitude so it would be 0.1% not 0.01, however, I think the broader point is still valid.

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    3 months ago

    A former boss told a story once that was super relatable.

    It was about change and how it’s not always necessary… He went on about how one business changed their payment policies so that everything was done by some kind of payment card, they wouldn’t accept cash/cheque with their new system.

    He was basically bitching about having to pay by card for something he usually pays for by cheque.

    The super relatable service that “pulled this on him”? It was a dry dock for his boat.

    Yep. Super relatable bossman. I can barely pay my bills on what I’m paid, and you’re being super relatable talking about how you store your boat in the winter. 🖕

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      Last year, my CEO said if we finish the project on time, he’ll buy a new truck and bring it around the office for everyone to check it out.

      This would be his 20th truck he bought.

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        Jesus, that is even worse than a “let them eat cake” moment. This would be like Marie Antoinette eating cake in front of the starving peasants and then saying “be grateful for the opportunity to watch me eat cake!”

        What happened to us? When did our spirits become so broken that the rich figuratively spit in our face and we thank them for it?

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    The ideas that normies don’t sail isn’t true. I’m a normie and not rich and I started a sailing school because it’s fun as hell. You don’t need ^to ^own a boat to go sailing, you only need to know how.

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        you join a club and are crew. it’s literally how most sailing clubs function. How the hell are you supposed to race a boat if only the owner gets to be on it? The larger the boat the more the crew you need. The fees at my club for crew are $40 a year. That’s like 1/3 the cost of netflix and way more worth it. And many clubs also have a “why buy?” club where you can captain one of the fleet boats a certain number of times a year and bring your own crew.

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          Even ten years ago I was like what the heck is an American flag doing on this boat?? The American empire is like one of my least fave so can we at least use the less horrifying state flag?