Not all leftists are the same, mate. For example, anarchists would love to kill the Bolsheviks. Bolsheviks would just love to kill everyone. Look at the history of Spanish Republicans during the Spanish Civil War, then tell me if they did not even shoot at each other at any point.
Oh, and did they. Bolsheviks who spoke out about the abuses of the Bolsheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries (ya know, actual left wing communists), Anarchists (every stripe), Soviet delegates, workers who went on strike, the Kronstadt sailors (Heros of the Revolution), peasants who fought expropriations, you looked at me funny…
The Roosevelts are widely applauded by the US left, but they don’t really worship them, and many are ready to admit they are flawed. Teddy was an imperialist despite being progressive for the time. FDR was an improvement but the Japanese internment camp was a stain in his legacy.
The communists would be more into cult of personality, but most American left are not communists and rightfully reject them.
One of the main reason thus far as to why communism hasn’t been rearing its head to oppose the rising fascism, is because many people still have a living memory on what its like living under the system. I would give it a generation or two before communism becomes vogue again; kinda like how fascism is on the rise again because those who lived under it are gradually fading to tell the story. And the younger generation don’t have the first hand knowledge and experience to actively avoid it.
Not all leftists are the same, mate. For example, anarchists would love to kill the Bolsheviks. Bolsheviks would just love to kill everyone. Look at the history of Spanish Republicans during the Spanish Civil War, then tell me if they did not even shoot at each other at any point.
Oh, and did they. Bolsheviks who spoke out about the abuses of the Bolsheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries (ya know, actual left wing communists), Anarchists (every stripe), Soviet delegates, workers who went on strike, the Kronstadt sailors (Heros of the Revolution), peasants who fought expropriations, you looked at me funny…
The list is almost endless.
Exactly my point. Yet some here are claiming that no-one on the left will ever worship an authoritarian figure.
I’m showing that some on the left already have.
Context makes it clear we’re talking about liberals in the US today.
Your point is pointlessly pedantic.
To claim that the US left will never worship a leader is baseless and false.
The Roosevelts are widely applauded by the US left, but they don’t really worship them, and many are ready to admit they are flawed. Teddy was an imperialist despite being progressive for the time. FDR was an improvement but the Japanese internment camp was a stain in his legacy.
The communists would be more into cult of personality, but most American left are not communists and rightfully reject them.
So, do you accept or reject the statement that the American left would never worship a politician?
If the communists are dominant, then sure (but even so, there are different kinds of communists).
Weath inequality in the US is currently higher than during the French revolution, and rising.
I don’t think hard-core communism will be necessary.
One of the main reason thus far as to why communism hasn’t been rearing its head to oppose the rising fascism, is because many people still have a living memory on what its like living under the system. I would give it a generation or two before communism becomes vogue again; kinda like how fascism is on the rise again because those who lived under it are gradually fading to tell the story. And the younger generation don’t have the first hand knowledge and experience to actively avoid it.