• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The premise of ‘end times’ of that question couldnt really have been that the rapture is imminent, seeing as 9% of atheists believe we’re in the end times in your graph.

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      Yep, the asked question was vague.

      I can however guarnatee you that every single Evangelical American Christian that answered ‘yes’ believes in an apocalyptic end times scenario, as well as many most who answered ‘no’.

      They still believe in some form of the theology of it, they just don’t think it is currently happening.

      Source on these claims is me, grew up in an Evangelical household, largely Evangelical community, I’ve since deconverted… had to go no contact with my family over this and other insane things they do/believe.

      Anyway, yes I am curious as to what those 9% of atheists and the agnostics mean by that… but it could be… climate change is gonna kill most or all of us, a nuclear war is probably gonna happen, hell maybe the Zeta Reticulans are currently massing their invasion fleet on the dark side of the moon.

      ???

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        As an atheist/agnostic, I believe the 9% are indeed people who think end-timers will kill us all in a man-made catastrophe while screaming the fire they set themselves is proof of god’s final judges.

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          I would count myself in that group.

          Can’t tell you how many times I’ve personally heard Evangelicals justify … lack of healthcare, lack of addressing climate change, outright militarism…

          …all comes back to their archaic worldview.

          Sometimes they’ll directly quote scripture in their justification.

          The latest meme going around the Evangelical tele/video/live stream preachers is literally ‘empathy is a sin’.

          They’re all backwards, and I do find it amusing that ‘many would be fooled, and worship the Beast’ is kind of actually happening, at least allegorically.

          They are damnable hyprocrites by their own logic, and they’d rather burn down the world than admit they might be wrong about something.

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        It definitely feels like human civilization as we know it is nearing its end, be it from climate change or ww3, so probably that.

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          Yeah, turns out the SMOC, the Antarctic version of the AMOC… altogether, the global system of how heat, nutrients, salt, carbon how they all flow through the world’s oceans?

          Yeah, the SMOC collapsed a decade ago.

          We didn’t notice till literally a few days ago.

          Climate is doomed, we can’t fix the oceans.

          We already blew through the 1.5C target a couple years ago now.

          Media just doesn’t talk about it anymore.

          Worse climate = increased international tensions, everything is harder for everyone, migration becomes necessary for survival from really badly hit places, but no one will want to let them all in.

          In a decade, 1/3 of the US will be uninsurable, no home insurance, too many disasters.

          Trump’s insane policies are going to cause a famine if he doesn’t reverse course on ICE raids, and cuts to medicare, food stamps, section 8, will kill millions.

          Good luck