Israel has spent like 4+ decades trying desperately to associate criticism of israel with antisemitism. And the world has complied, Hell its now a crime punishable by decades in prison just to support Palestine in the UK. Gotta wonder how Churchill hasnt lept out of his grave and started cockslapping motherfuckers.

Netanyahu also used to have a penchant for comparing people who refused to gargle his fucking balls to Hitler, in a blatant attempt to shame people into Israeli compliance. Hasnt done it so much anymore, Probably because descriptions of Hitler and his actions would rub too uncomfortably close to what Netanyahu and Israel are doing now a days.

They look pretty much the same in terms of skin tone. It’s not whites vs browns. They all just look Mediterranean

Who? Israel’s dominant sociopolitical group are Ashkenazi. They’re white. Pretending it’s Mediterraneans vs Mediterraneans is playing into the Israeli lie that Jewish people are the true native people in Canaan and everyone else is an outside invader. When in reality some Jews are native to the area, just as the Palestinians are. But certainly not the 20th century neocolonial supremacist state of Israel.

I’ve met many Jewish people. Who have spoken like Psycopaths about murdering Islamists and anyone they consider an “ENEMY” of Jewish people. Not all Jewish people are evil like this. But from my anecdotal experience. Jewish people support criminal organizations that steal from everyone with the Jewish Mafia being an unspoken evil arm of their operations.

I question the intelligence of any person that believes in a religion. You’re just telling me. You need fantasy stories to make you a good person. Which tells me that you’re really a terrible person without your fake stories.

Radical is when something I don’t like happens.

If only words had meanings and you could look up what those meanings were.

I would LOVE It if even ONE ‘radical’ movie, TV show or video game ever came out. But it never will because Hollywood and Game companies are all Capitalists who only allow the mildest of critiques.

The Ghorman Massacre was even in the new continuity as of (at least) the 2017 Rebels episode Secret Cargo.

And in Andor, the aesthetics were obviously drawing on the French Resistance in WWII.

But this doesn’t mean the parallels to Israel and Gaza were not there. The “history repeats” aspect might be part of it, but because this was the first time the Ghorman Massacre was portrayed on screen in current canon, they had considerable leeway in how they told the story, what events framed it, and what parallels they were trying to draw.

There’s a reason they chose to rewrite Mon Mothma’s speech in the Senate from the one shown in Rebels, and that is that they wanted it to tell their message. They chose to frame it as a genocide that the overall population is wilfully ignoring. They chose to have disinformation campaigns coming from those in power which present the Ghormans not as the oppressed group of freedom fighters that they truly are, but as terrorists receiving aid from outside. They chose to show the Empire as willing to deliberately kill their own and have it blamed on the “terrorists”. Heck, they chose to place it in a place specifically called, as @Objection@lemmy.ml notes, the Ghorman Plaza.

Still, even if it is directly informed by the Gaza genocide itself, it’s obviously not meant to be a perfect allegory. It’s meant to be broadly applicable to all sorts of freedom fighting against oppressive authoritarian states.

To quote the grandfather of the very genre in which Star Wars as a franchise* sits:

I much prefer history – true or feigned – with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.

La mort de l’auteur. The best literature can be applied to a wide variety of real-world situations, depending on what the audience’s personal history is and which elements of the art they choose to concentrate on. So the Zionists look at the WWII French aesthetics and cling to that desperate to ignore the parallels to the crimes they themselves are complicit in. The most literate audience brings their own perspective, but also opens themselves up to hear other perspectives, and thus sees that there are multiple possible readings. The narrow-minded audience picks their interpretation and uses it as a reason to reject others.

* I would argue that Andor as a show is really a political thriller and science-fiction. But the core movies and most of the animated shows are fantasy.

Yes, Star Wars Rebels is so brilliant that they were referencing the Isreal-Hamas war in 2017.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Secret_Cargo

Y’all are sounding like qanons with your numerology now.

So, I just finished writing a rather lengthy comment about why you’re so obviously wrong to say it’s not about Gaza.

But I did also add that there are other equally valid possible interpretations because it’s about applicability and metaphor, not direct allegory. Even so, I find your attempts here to compare it to China to be rather tenuous. The fact that the country produces “silk” and did a massacre is pretty much the only parallel. To me, the silk thing is more about adding to the obvious aesthetics of WWII French Resistance, with the silk thing tying in to France’s famous connection to high fashion. I’d say the fact that Tiananmen Square was crushing an internal resistance, while on Ghorman, as well as in both WWII France and in Gaza it’s outsiders seeking to invade and kill the locals, makes the Chinese connection especially weak.

history started on October 7

another dumbfuck

Did Andor portray that at all?

The empire depicting the Gorman resistance as evil terrorists who attacked unprovoked was indeed depicted in Andor.

Israel Gaza war kicked off

When great Britain partitioned off land and help kick out the population.

Weird how that’s also what happened in Andor…

And of course the zionist is trying to deflect it to a different situation

See, again, people like this are exactly why we need the protagonist to look directly at the camera and explain things to them. Because the average Westerner’s worldview is so propagandized that when they see a work critiquing their own government, they assume that it must be about foreigners, because obviously we’re number one and everyone else is worse than us. If you make a US allegory look bad, they assume it couldn’t possibly be about the US. Combination of media illiteracy and a delusional, chauvinistic worldview.

I’m pretty sure the Israel Gaza war kicked off with terrorists masscring people in villages and taking hostages, but it wasn’t the IDF doing that shit. Did Andor portray that at all?

Well, the show kicks off with Andor shooting two corporate security guards, after they tried to rob him. Does that count? I mean, it’s not like Palestinian resistance to Israeli colonization and apartheid is unprovoked.

Anyway, which silk producing country massacred peaceful protesters in a public square?

The silk producing planet did not massacre peaceful protesters in a public square. The Empire, an occupying force in Ghorman, massacred Ghormans. I guess if Ghormans had massacred Imperials, your China comparison might make a certain amount of sense. But that’s the complete opposite of what happened in the show, where the “silk producing planet” was the victim of genocide, not the perpetrator.

Incidentally, Gaza is also famous for textiles, or at least, it was, before the dark times. Before the Empire.

Next you’re going to tell me that the original trilogy wasn’t about the Vietnam War