• Roguelazer@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    “Anti-vaccine advocate” is a weird way of phrasing “random unqualified non-doctor who got in trouble for working with his dad to chemically castrate autistic children”

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      It sounds like Lupin is a puberty blocker too, which is like the whole thing the right is against… so they hire a guy who uses puberty blockers on kids, but it’s ok cause he believes it stops autism?

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    Reminds me of how companies like Coca-Cola would order mass “studies” to prove that sugar is in fact healthy.

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    RFK if you wanna delete the Autism then come over here and shoot me in person bitch

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    I dont understand people claiming vaccines cause autism. Assuming vaccines caused autism, it clearly has a small chance since most people are vaccinated. If they didnt prevent diseases, why would so many people promote them? If they did prevent diseases, do the people claiming vaccines are bad prefer their child dying from a disease more than their child having autism?

    Edit: added “Assuming vaccines caused autism,” to reduce confusion

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      As you say, people would really rather watch their children and elderly family members die preventable, agonizing deaths than risk getting autism. Of course this also comes from their belief that these diseases aren’t that bad, and that they aren’t even common(because of the vaccines but they don’t understand that). They also think that all autism is the 100% low-functioning, non-verbal, violent kind which is just complete horseshit.

      In short: They’re fucking stupid.

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      I dont understand people claiming vaccines cause autism.

      RFK has a thing about Thimerosal in vaccines because heavy metals like lead, cadmium, and mercury directly influence gene expression.

      But most vaccines in the US and Europe have already had Thimerosal removed as a precautionary measure, even though there is no evidence that thiomersal in vaccines caused harm.

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      Wtf? They don’t cause autism. There isn’t a small chance. The fjck wrong with you

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        They obviously dont cause autism. But even if you ignore everything people who know things about the subject say, it still wouldnt make sense to claim that vaccines are bad

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          You are trying to phrase it in a why that even anti-vaxers might understand and put some logic into it. Mpatch is trying to say, why would you even bring autism into the discussion again because it shouldn’t even be near it. We all agree, there is just a difference of hardline stance in what even needs to be discussed or how to go about a discussion.

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        Really displaying that low reading comprehension, eh?

        If most people are vaccinated and we look at the rates of autism, and even decided that the only way for autism to exist is through vaccines, then they are correct that the likelihood of being autistic for this reason would be insanely low. Far less than, say, dying of any of the otherwise preventable diseases.

        #StopDumbingThingsDownForIdiots. If you can’t understand this easy stuff then you need to catch up.

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        He says “assuming”, perhaps he could have further clarified for sake of argument. He’s saying even without debunking the claim, you can just wave your hand around and point the simple reality of relatively few people with autism despite majority of people vaccinated.

        That’s not to say the claim is true, just that even if it were, it’s still stupid

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    Reminder that this guy has a anti-vax book that is rated VERY HIGHLY on Amazon and Goodreads, with thousands of positive reviews.

    That’s all you need to know that the clowns are running the circus.

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    Wakefield was paid to create that paper and he lost his medical license for his lack of ethics. RFK wants to study him.

    What was RFK’s profession? Did he have one besides being a Kennedy? Did he study anything legitimate in depth in his life?

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      He was actually a lawyer and was fairly well known for defending environmental causes, minority groups, and disenfranchised communities

      If he didn’t take this turn later he probably would’ve been remembered as a fairly decent man who turned his life around (a former heroin addict) and did good things

      Instead he is known who destroyed the country’s healthcare system. I personally don’t believe he was ever a former addict. I think he was a shitty child of extreme privilege (objectively true) who was an asshole that stole shit from people and sold drugs despite having access to extreme wealth in his teens (objectively true) and kept doing heroin until he finally got caught by someone who couldn’t sweep it under the rug late into his law career (objectively true). At this point he had been doing heroin 10+ years and apparently quit for good with one rehab stint (highly suspect).

      Given his privilege and the timing (late 80s) I suspect he got access to a corrupt doctor that wrote him tons of adderall scripts and he just changed his addiction to something “legitimate” (conjecture). Maybe he cleaned himself up over the next 40 years and that’s why he now he has such a beef against adderall and psych meds now. Classic right wing projection: I can’t take these without slamming 25 a day and become a methd up zombie so I assume everyone is the same (also conjecture, obviously).

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        So he was a successful lawyer and heroin addict for 10 years? That’s actually kind of impressive. I guess a lot of times (before fentanyl at least), running out of money and needing to get more is the part about addiction that ends up fucking their life up. And he didn’t have to worry about that.

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          Fentanyl isn’t as dangerous when you’ve been slamming dope every day for a decade, you might purposely seek it out at that point

          He also got into Harvard law despite being by his own admission a total fuckup. If you or I spend our adolescence committing crime and doing drugs we don’t get to go to Harvard but rfk got rewarded for his continual shitty decisions with one of the most prestigious educations followed up by an elite career in law. I am sure it was not a secret he was using the entire time and yet he continued to fail upwards. At least at this point he did some good for the world. Too bad he’s undone it all and then some (another measles outbreak today in Kansas)

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      The problem was never the cash flow bottom line, the problem was where the money was going, we need it to kill American soldiers in an attempt to invade Canada, destroy our youth with previously defeated viruses, deprived trans people what they need to live, throw innocent people in El Salvadorian prisons, detain PhD students who exercised their freedom of speech and weather a fruitless trade war with other countries, so Putin’s Russia can rise to glory and they will then go and Make America Great Again

      (/s)

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    The goal here is to gin up a pseudo-scientific paper to use as a prop to reinforce the misinformed population and push the anti-vax agenda further into actual policy, probably resulting in vaccine bans. RFK hates Americans and humanity, as evident by pretty well every action he takes and opinion he holds.

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    Must feel working all those hours and seeing the tax go to things like this