• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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        14 hours ago

        “Which is accurate. It’s the infection or cancer that kills you.” That’s you. That’s what you said.

        It’s like you’d disagree that being a tight rope walker could lead to a higher risk of plumeting to ones’ death, yet you’re so preoccupied with being correct that you refuse to acknowledge the reality of the situation… sad.

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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          11 hours ago

          “Which is accurate. It’s the infection or cancer that kills you.” That’s you. That’s what you said.

          Yes. I said that AIDS itself doesn’t kill you. In fact these days it’s much more manageable with modern treatment. I never said it didn’t raise your risk of dying from something else, obviously, that’s the main thing it does.

          It’s like you’d disagree that being a tight rope walker could lead to a higher risk of plumeting to ones’ death

          I’d say that tight rope walking doesn’t kill you. I used to go to the rock climbing gym all the time, and there was a slack line there constantly being used and I never saw anyone die on it. Tight rope walking isn’t all that dangerous, any more than any other moderate athletic act. Tight rope walking 50 feet above the ground is dangerous, but I’d also argue that being on a tight rope 50 feet above the ground is drastically safer than being in the exact same point in space minus the tight rope.

          Because that’s exactly what this AIDS analogy is ignoring. Yeah, it can easily make an easily oppressed person more materially oppressed if it leads them into the influence of religious oppressors. But it can also be a source of fortitude and resilience against those very oppressors. Martin Luther is a fantastic example, his devotion gave him the resolve to call out the Catholic Church for its oppressive bullshit.

          Rubes are gonna be rubes. If it’s not a religious institution, it’ll be an MLM or an NFT grift or a political party or something. Religion, the faith, isn’t oppressing anyone any more than franchise owners or cyber security nerds or political activists. That is the reality of the situation.