• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    308·
    2 days ago

    People who keep saying that what newsom or allred said about trans people is nbd, this is progress toward the future you want.

    It won’t stop until you’re cheering on as trans people are murdered in camps, secure in the blissful assumption that the fascists would never turn their hatred in your direction.

    • unhrpetby@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      93·
      2 days ago

      …saying what newsom or allred said.

      I don’t know about allred, but if this is the Gavin Newsom statement you’re referring to:

      I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair…

      Then I don’t understand how it goes from that to:

      …cheering on as trans people are murdered in camps…

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        2 days ago

        I don’t know about allred

        Allred ran republican anti-trans “boys in girls sports” hatred in his own ads. No big deal.

        I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair…

        Then I don’t understand how it goes from that to:

        …cheering on as trans people are murdered in camps…

        Well, for starters, newsom knows better, and so do you. There are already policies in place that let trans athletes participate without harming the integrity of the sport.

        So newsom is participating in a smear of trans people for no good reason. That’s not going to stop. centrists aren’t suddenly going to grow a spine when it comes to vulnerable minorities. They will accept as reasonable every single bigoted republican statement about trans people, one at a time, until they are cheering along with republicans as trans people are murdered in camps.

        democrats have been moving to the right for decades. Do you expect them to stop?

        Or do you just expect them to stop before they get to you?

        Putting an even finer point on this: when it comes down to equal rights in real life versus a ginned up wedge issue that republicans came up with about games, centrists will handwring about games with their republican bigot buddies when the alternative is standing with trans people.

  • frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io
    522·
    3 days ago

    They gonna go back and check sex chromosomes, genitals, and hormones in all the athletes in the entire record book? If not, this is just a personal attack on one fucking athlete.

  • kemsat@lemmy.world
    23·
    2 days ago

    I’m guessing they mean they’ll be erasing the records set while competing as a female, which makes sense.

    • mako@lemmy.today
      235·
      2 days ago

      Cis people fucking suck. In my experience most cis people, cis men especially, are extremely toxic, hateful and again, in my experience

      Replace “cis” with black, or gay, or any other human descriptive to see how fucked up what you just said really is.

      Your in my experience tag isn’t softening your hate - “I’m just saying that in my experience black men are toxic.” - see how that sounds? That’s how you sound to everyone else.

      Realize that you’re being just as hateful as the shitty individuals who hate you for what you are, and choose something better.

      • RedSeries (She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        410·
        2 days ago

        Trans person: “Cis people suck, they keep passing laws and push rhetoric that kills people like me. They are toxic and hateful.”

        Some random cis person: “tHaTs HaTeFuL yOu HyPoCrItE”

        In my experience, cis people are the only ones erasing us and trying to pass laws and rhetoric that kills us. Sorry it’s not easy to “nuance” a voice of frustration around that. Cis people honestly kinda suck. Looking forward to another tone police reply.

        • mako@lemmy.today
          81·
          2 days ago

          And it’s Isrealis who are genociding Palestinians, Russians who are invading and killing Ukrainians, and Chinese that are genociding Uighurs, but it’s ignorant and hateful to make blanket statements like “Israeli/Russian/Chinese people fucking suck,” as any fully-formed person understands that having no control over a group you were born to does not indict you for the crimes of the very worst of that group.

          Grow up.

          • RedSeries (She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            26·
            2 days ago

            So if Ukrainians said that Russians suck, are you gonna jump in to defend Russians? What if Palestinians said that Israeli people suck, are you going to chide them?

            If so, then you just want those suffering to suffer quietly, or to suffer “the right way”. God forbid they express disdain for the groups oppressing them.

            • mako@lemmy.today
              41·
              2 days ago

              I think a better question is, do YOU think that Israeli/Russian/Chinese people fucking suck, or do you only hate entire groups of people when it directly affects you?

              Hating an entire group of people <> “suffering the right way”

              I hope you becomes less of a hateful person. I’ll leave you to it and hope our interaction inspires others to be less hateful and ignorant than you seem determined to maintain.

            • slackassassin@sh.itjust.works
              31·
              2 days ago

              People should be held accountable for their choices and actions. Nobody chose to be born in any country, as a particular race, gender, or any other “group” outside of their control.

              Perpetuating the acceptance of prejudice, however, is a choice.

    • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
      107·
      3 days ago

      The fact that the University of Pennsylvania swimmer soared from a mid-500s ranking (554th in the 200 freestyle; all divisions) in men’s competition to one of the top-ranked swimmers in women’s competition tells the story

      In the 100 freestyle, Thomas’ best time prior to her transition was 47.15. At the NCAA Championships, she posted a prelims time in the event of 47.37. That time reflects minimal mitigation of her male-puberty advantage.

      During the last season Thomas competed as a member of the Penn men’s team, which was 2018-19, she ranked 554th in the 200 freestyle, 65th in the 500 freestyle and 32nd in the 1650 freestyle. As her career at Penn wrapped, she moved to fifth, first and eighth in those respective events on the women’s deck.

      Removing the records set while competing in women’s events seems justified in this case.