I think that the motivation behind it is very simple: no one gives a shit about what I go through, why should I give a shit what you go through?
I’m not saying it’s right, but there is a twisted logic to it and there are certain societal factors at play that do make it seem true (like young boys being much more likely to be suspended or expelled from school).
Again, I’m not saying we should stop fighting for women’s rights — rights for one are rights for all. I’m just saying, understanding instead of trivializing will be what leads all of us out of this mess.
We all understand “fuck racism,” “punch nazis,” and “fuck fascism” but for some reason when it comes to sexism and incel culture it becomes “let’s coddle them.”
You can’t just declare an entire gender incel/sexist and not expect backlash from the righterous kind of people. Why is everyone surprised when people become outraged just because they get labeled just for being a certain gender?
I’m a man, and I’ve never been accused of being an incel. If you are being accused of it a lot, maybe look somewhere other than your gender for the cause?
Ironically no. The first and last time I got accused was by a welder friend. Like, I didn’t even imply I hate women, I just didn’t want to search for a date outside some very specific places, and I lost the motivation to interact with people since. Why does not wanting to drown in pussy 24/7 make you an incel? He just went off on me, throwing random insults because I hang out with furries, and have some very left wing opinions that he does not like.
Lol. Wow yeah, for example, white anti-racists sure get pissed off when the focus is white people in discussions about racism. Except they don’t. For some reason incels are extra sensitive and in large numbers on Lemmy.
That’s the tricky thing. Incels tend to react and oust themselves, so any pro-male argument gets labeled as well, incel. Would be hilarious if it where not horrifying, because there’s “final solutions” being suggested for men. Similar to what is happening with Israel labeling anyone arguing against their genocide as being anti-semitic, using their victimhood to get away with whatever they want.
Having said that yeah, even I had a lot of bad experiences with men as a man. I don’t want to hear your “grab her by the pussy shit”, most of my misanthropy comes from my male friends and family downplaying my problems as insignificant. We aren’t talking about mere pain, or not being able to get some luxury. We are talking permanent, unfixable things I am worried about, things that are essential to me, getting downplayed. They want me to sell out who I am, and be happy with their pointless material decadence. Then, they call me a fucking pussy for not wanting to fall into that trap. I hate this sick, psychopathic world, it deserves nothing!
Forgive me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you aren’t angry at the world, you’re angry at people. I’d be willing to bet you love the natural world, and hate people for denying that they’re a part of a cycle that we all share. For claiming godhood whilst piously masquerading. Burning Eden while God sleeps.
I wouldn’t blame you, if that’s the truth. There are many people who deserve to be hated. The issue with hate, though, is that it’s very toxic. Righteous hatred begets genuine, blind hatred. You won’t even realize that you’re hating things that don’t even really deserve to be hated, simply because they might be tangentially associated with things you justifiably hate. They may not even be associated, it could just be that it reminds you of something you hate — and thus you hate it.
I don’t know what the path out of this mess is for all of us, but it begins and ends with hate. We either learn to put aside the hate or it will immolate all of us from the inside out. This is our only real option. I’m sorry you’ve experienced it, I hope the experience changed you to understand that we’re all in this together. Even the people you hate.
I used to be an I want to shield everyone under my wings type of person. A.k.a want to be friends with pretty much everyone, and help everyone. Also, I despise the natural world, as I see it as what is, and not what should be. Nature is the filter that is left when you throw in total chaos, and something emerges from it. The things that are better at maintaining their existence, tend to exist more. It is also random, and chaotic despite this. In other words, nature is not perfect, it is not some supernatural good. It is a sign that there is no intelligent life managing the universe.
What we need is intelligent life to manage everything in a benevolent way. A.k.a what humans should and could have been. Animals eat their own children, prioritize slight convenience for themselves over massive suffering of their prey, starting to eat a prey from the balls first, so on.
No, clearly all of us do not understand what those things mean. If that were true, the U.S. wouldn’t have shifted further and further towards fascism over the past 60 years.
I think that the motivation behind it is very simple: no one gives a shit about what I go through, why should I give a shit what you go through?
I’m not saying it’s right, but there is a twisted logic to it and there are certain societal factors at play that do make it seem true (like young boys being much more likely to be suspended or expelled from school).
Again, I’m not saying we should stop fighting for women’s rights — rights for one are rights for all. I’m just saying, understanding instead of trivializing will be what leads all of us out of this mess.
We all understand “fuck racism,” “punch nazis,” and “fuck fascism” but for some reason when it comes to sexism and incel culture it becomes “let’s coddle them.”
You can’t just declare an entire gender incel/sexist and not expect backlash from the righterous kind of people. Why is everyone surprised when people become outraged just because they get labeled just for being a certain gender?
I’m a man, and I’ve never been accused of being an incel. If you are being accused of it a lot, maybe look somewhere other than your gender for the cause?
Bingo
Ironically no. The first and last time I got accused was by a welder friend. Like, I didn’t even imply I hate women, I just didn’t want to search for a date outside some very specific places, and I lost the motivation to interact with people since. Why does not wanting to drown in pussy 24/7 make you an incel? He just went off on me, throwing random insults because I hang out with furries, and have some very left wing opinions that he does not like.
Lol. Wow yeah, for example, white anti-racists sure get pissed off when the focus is white people in discussions about racism. Except they don’t. For some reason incels are extra sensitive and in large numbers on Lemmy.
That’s the tricky thing. Incels tend to react and oust themselves, so any pro-male argument gets labeled as well, incel. Would be hilarious if it where not horrifying, because there’s “final solutions” being suggested for men. Similar to what is happening with Israel labeling anyone arguing against their genocide as being anti-semitic, using their victimhood to get away with whatever they want.
Having said that yeah, even I had a lot of bad experiences with men as a man. I don’t want to hear your “grab her by the pussy shit”, most of my misanthropy comes from my male friends and family downplaying my problems as insignificant. We aren’t talking about mere pain, or not being able to get some luxury. We are talking permanent, unfixable things I am worried about, things that are essential to me, getting downplayed. They want me to sell out who I am, and be happy with their pointless material decadence. Then, they call me a fucking pussy for not wanting to fall into that trap. I hate this sick, psychopathic world, it deserves nothing!
Forgive me if I’m wrong but it sounds like you aren’t angry at the world, you’re angry at people. I’d be willing to bet you love the natural world, and hate people for denying that they’re a part of a cycle that we all share. For claiming godhood whilst piously masquerading. Burning Eden while God sleeps.
I wouldn’t blame you, if that’s the truth. There are many people who deserve to be hated. The issue with hate, though, is that it’s very toxic. Righteous hatred begets genuine, blind hatred. You won’t even realize that you’re hating things that don’t even really deserve to be hated, simply because they might be tangentially associated with things you justifiably hate. They may not even be associated, it could just be that it reminds you of something you hate — and thus you hate it.
I don’t know what the path out of this mess is for all of us, but it begins and ends with hate. We either learn to put aside the hate or it will immolate all of us from the inside out. This is our only real option. I’m sorry you’ve experienced it, I hope the experience changed you to understand that we’re all in this together. Even the people you hate.
I used to be an I want to shield everyone under my wings type of person. A.k.a want to be friends with pretty much everyone, and help everyone. Also, I despise the natural world, as I see it as what is, and not what should be. Nature is the filter that is left when you throw in total chaos, and something emerges from it. The things that are better at maintaining their existence, tend to exist more. It is also random, and chaotic despite this. In other words, nature is not perfect, it is not some supernatural good. It is a sign that there is no intelligent life managing the universe.
What we need is intelligent life to manage everything in a benevolent way. A.k.a what humans should and could have been. Animals eat their own children, prioritize slight convenience for themselves over massive suffering of their prey, starting to eat a prey from the balls first, so on.
It’s probably because 50% of the population doesn’t identify as racist or as a Nazi.
No, clearly all of us do not understand what those things mean. If that were true, the U.S. wouldn’t have shifted further and further towards fascism over the past 60 years.
I meant the overwhelming majority of us on Lemmy but I should have been more precise saying that.