Here’s the thing – what are the “Epstein files” exactly? Who claimed they exist in the first place? Who has them?

Because they said they did.

Did the Biden government say they had “the Epstein client list”?

What is “the list”? How do we know the government even has “the list”?

I’m not gonna go hunting for it, but I’m pretty sure this has been studied and you’re spot on.

I wouldn’t call them intelligent, but the overwhelming consensus in that thread is that they’re super angry at Trump.

It’s a full-on MAGA crash-out in there.

They call it: newsflation

Are you really asking why advertising that “the following comment may be hallucinated” nets you more downvotes than just omitting that fact?

You’re literally telling people “hey, this is a low effort comment” and acting flabbergasted that it gets you downvotes.

It’s not irrelevant, it’s that you don’t actually know if it’s true or not, so it’s not a valuable contribution.

If you started your comment by saying “This is something I completely made up and may or may not be correct” and then posted the same thing, you should expect the same result.

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Knock knock

Is it?

Also, other appreciating assets have some use within the wider economy.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with what I said about them.

Again, you’ll notice people are spending their capital on things they don’t need all day, rather than than investing it in appreciating assets. Why are they doing that? Why would they buy things they don’t need today, when they could invest in an appreciating asset and be able to afford 10 of those things tomorrow?

People would buy more than just bare essentials because people want things. This doesn’t exist in a vacuum – at this very moment, people are using fiat currency to buy all kinds of things they don’t need instead of investing it in some kind of appreciating asset.

As there’s no intrinsic value to bitcoin

There’s no intrinsic value to fiat currency. I’m not sure why you keep saying this.

It was phrased as a question on purpose, to get you to think about it.

Your assertion is that no one would spend their Bitcoin on bread, and they’d instead use fiat currency. I’m asking you: why would they take their capital, regardless of what form it’s in, and spend it on bread, if they knew they could hold onto that capital and it would appreciate in value?

The answer is very obvious: they need to eat.

But if they’re not buying things to buy bitcoin because they want to get returns off their bitcoin

I just explained why they would buy things. I said it twice, actually.

No we aren’t…

We’re back to: people would spend it in order to buy things

That’s mining them, not making them. The supply is hard-capped.

How do you make them?

In the short term, maybe.

But if Bitcoin is always going to go up in value, why would it make sense to spend your USDs buying goods and services instead of using them to buy Bitcoin and increasing the value of that capital?

there’s not really any use cases for it outside of crime

I just listed 5…