Iran’s Revolutionary Guards vowed on Sunday to target ‘Israeli’ Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as the war with ‘Israel’ and the United States continues.
“If this child-killing criminal is alive, we will continue to pursue and kill him with full force,” said the Guards on their website Sepah News.
Okay, doing a deeper dive, I’d say the minimum is around ten thousand, with a max around thirty-five. The official Iranian government number is around three thousand, and HRANA reported around seven thousand, but both were in the form of lists of names, and it seems there was minimal overlap between the two, so the lists are likely additive. And that also assumes they were able to identify every person killed. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
But short of the forty thousand initially stated for sure. I was quoting a number heard not researched. Though, even if you take the the three thousand number as gospel, that’s still an insane number of your own citizens to have killed. Compare again to the sub-10 number of protesters killed in Minneapolis.
Also, Israel killed around seven thousand in December of 2023, so no, I don’t think that it’d be terribly hard to accomplish disposing of the bodies of forty thousand people logistically. I don’t recall seeing giant piles of Palestinian corpses on satellite feeds or anything. And Israel hasn’t taken steps to lock down citizen communication with the outside world.
But this isn’t a bloodthirsty-ness dick measuring contest. Both sides have a distinct indifference to human life that’s unconscionable. And your defense that “it’s okay Iran murdered those people because they were rioters and looters and most of them were actually paid militants,” has some real “Donald Trump takes on the George Floyd protests” energy.
The Iranian people have had a growing discontent against their government for decades. I just read a book of interviews with Iranian citizens from around 2005, and they were pretty fed up with their government then, and the abuses have only gotten worse. Iran has been on the precipice of a revolution for a long time. I think it’s unnecessarily conspiratorial to lay it all at the feet of the US.
There weren’t hostile enemy nations arming the protesters in Minneapolis, and they weren’t hunting down cops and soldiers. 209 government-affiliated military and non-military personnel were killed during the riots. The situations are not so easily comparable.
This wasn’t protest, it was attempted color revolution. Was Iran supposed to let them overthrow the government?
We know Mossad was involved, because they openly admitted it. Mossad’s official Farsi X (Twitter) account posted: “We are with you. Not only from a distance and verbally. We are with you in the field.” Mossad Director David Barnea’s gave a statement following the June 2025 strikes, warning that Israel “will continue to be there [in Iran], as we have been there.” Mike Pompao came out to say; “Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets. Also to every Mossad agent walking beside them." We also know they helped distribute satellite internet connections for Starlink to evade media blackouts, and operated social media channels to help coordinate the riots.
CIA is less obvious, they actually have OpSec and know not to brag that they have agents in the streets. It’s hard to believe that the CIA left Israel on its own to conduct this operation, though. Also, the rioters got their guns from somewhere.
Two hundred and nine police being killed vs the unrealistic minimum three thousand of citizens that were gunned down may not paint the “they were just defending themselves” picture you think it does.
I don’t doubt that Mossad was there for meeting unrest. That’s kind of what they do. But they don’t have mind control. The vast majority of those involved were discontented citizens. You could argue that that discontent was exacerbated by outside forces, but the approval ratings of the Iranian government are in the toilet internally. That discontent was already there.
And to be clear, January 6th was also a mob of armed, foreign instigated insurrectionists storming the seat of government in which police were killed. Did the police mow down swaths of citizens then? You can, in fact, subdue an angry mob without pumping it full of automatic gunfire.
Facts is we don’t know the real number. So stop making baseless estimations
Well, the official number from the Iranian government is a little over three thousand. Is that an acceptable number of your own citizens to mow down during a protest?
If so, where is the cutoff where you have mowed down enough of your own citizens where it’s unacceptable?
If not, why does it even matter, as we both agree they wontonly killed an unacceptable number of their own citizens, whether than number is three thousand or forty thousand?
We don’t know the real numbers, end of the story
A beautiful non-answer. Which makes sense, as your position is indefensible. 👍
It is a fact that we don’t know the real numbers . Your position is indefensible
I didn’t say we did. I, in fact, agreed we didn’t. I asked what the numbers would have to be in order for them to not be a moral tragedy, and you responded that “it doesn’t matter because we don’t have the numbers.”
I already agreed we didn’t have the numbers. We can estimate, but that we don’t have them is certainly a fact. I’m agreeing with you.
So, my question was, absent any sure numbers, what would be an acceptable number of your own citizens to mow down at a protest? And then, do you think it likely that number was exceeded?
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