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The American way

FIFA peace prize in shambles, board of peace blown to pieces.

Iran has been a headache for a long time. Much like in America and Israel, violent religious fundamentalists took control over society and installed a reign of terror.

This has of course been bad for the Iranians, but America of course could not care less about that. However, Iran has been a major concern for Israel, as they are an unreliable an aggressive neighbour. Again, don’t let the irony get lost on you. The threat of Iran maybe managing to develop nukes has been a particularly salient issue, and perhaps one of the driving forces behind Israel getting its own nukes decades ago.

In short, Israel just cannot feel safe with the current rule in Iran. Or so the Israeli far right has insisted for decades, anyways. Keeping this fear high on the agenda has been key to winning elections and to get in place the far right genocidal lunatics currently in the Israeli government. Along with the fear of Palestinians of course.

The US is of course loyal allies of Israel as their one true friend in a region full of oil. The Saudis are of course also good friends whenever they are not actively attacking America and killing civilians or journalists, but they are not quite as good at lobbying. So American interests and Israeli interests are pretty much the same, and the Iranian regime has been the face of evil for decades. Conveniently they are also super evil, so it’s easy to make propaganda.

Recently the Iranian regime has murdered a bunch of civilians who protest the regime. The US and Israel wouldn’t usually care about dead civilians in the middle east - they certainly wouldn’t oppose it at least - but right now it provides a convenient excuse to bomb the fuck out of Iran. Trump needs this because he needs support before the upcoming election- a successful impeachment might allow the opposition to grow teeth, and if they do he could end up locked away for life.

Netanyahu is in even deeper ship than Trump, with corruption charges at home and crimes against humanity abroad. Now that his genocide in Palestine is getting old he needs something new to keep him in power.

Iran responds to attack by sending missiles towards American military bases in the area. American military bases are located in the surrounding countries, which is why you see newspaper headlines making out as if Iran is launching a war on every country in the regioun. They’re not, they’re just trying to strike back against America and Israel. Just like the Americans and Israelis they suck at hitting military targets and often end up hitting civilian ones instead.

Trump is desperate to keep the Epstein files out of the spot light so he is doing anything to keep attention elsewhere. As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.

On the other part, Netanyahu needs to keep Israel in war so his own corruption trials do not catch up to him… with Palestine raised razed to the ground, Iran is the next target

Some guy who regularly shits his pants raped kids with a guy that worked for mossad. He and/or mossad had that guy murdered a couple years ago. People started asking too many uncomfortable questions recently so this was the best course of action.

Who benefits from Trump’s war in Iran? The answer is disturbingly clear.

Who wants Iran bombed off the map, for their own reasons? Who are their rivals and enemies? Perennially, the Gulf Arab states, countries like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

You know, Qatar. The country that just gave Donald Trump a really, really nice $400 milion-dollar plane, a gilded flying palace for his own use both during his presidency and after?

And you remember the United Arab Emirates, recently structuring a totally pointless crypto financial transaction so that $2 billion of it was stuffed into the Trump family’s otherwise worthless brand-new crypto financial firm?

And you remember the Saudis who stuffed $2 billion into the pockets of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner just as Trump’s first term in office came to a close? Enough people were alarmed about that they actually bothered to come up with an excuse for what made it OK. They said, don’t worry, Jared will never again work for the U.S. government; he’s never coming back to Washington, so we’ll never have to worry about having someone involved in U.S. policy who has also been given billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.

Well, who was leading the negotiations on behalf of the United States with Iran before we just started this war with them? I mean, Secretary of State Marco Rubio was in St. Kitts and Nevis. It wasn’t him. It was Jared Kushner, who was recently paid billions of dollars by Iran’s chief rival, sitting alongside Trump’s tiny real estate friend, Steve Witkoff, whose son recently sought to improve his family fortunes by going to Qatar to seek money from its sovereign wealth fund.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/56168528

I have heard nothing about this.

Back in my army days, every chopper that went down, whether in a warzone or not, was deemed an “accident” or “mechanical failure”. Once two choppers went down and we were told they just crashed against each other, lol. I don’t believe these “accidents” anymore, maybe 1 out of 10 cases but this is just a lie to keep morale up, I’m positive.

FWIW Russia shot themselves, so it’s not quite the same.

If the US had shot its own jets down … that’d be funny.

Israel must have real dirt on Trump to make him bomb them when they were never a threat to us, just local to Israel

Some people aren’t that ignorant but still need to rationalize their xenophobia and bloodthirst.

It’s nice to get updates on events as they happen this way

He is a martyr, objectively. Does that mean the Iranian government is “good”? No, but he was murdered by the US/Israel, knowing full well the risks to his own life. Now Iran is in a war of national survival, so it isn’t just pro-government people but also the fence-sitters who will consider him a martyr. The hard-core opposition will increasingly look like quislings as the nazi pedophile forces indiscriminately bomb Iranian cities.

We are not here to play moral game

Breaking the nuclear taboo on a country that’s exhausted its ability to fight back seems like it would be buried somewhere in the Project 2025 fine print.

I’m sure he wants to, but I think everyone is telling him no. If we nuke Iran, Iran is free to nuke us. I’m not sure if they would. But if they do, we will likely see actual WWIII. Or at least the US’ allies dogpiling Iran. I don’t know if Iran has enough allies that would join the war.

What’s the point of voting a megathread when it’s always pinned?

Also it doesn’t help there’s nothing in it

Its part of the plan to rig the elections in November for sure

Yeah, giving a prognosis on the duration of a war is usually not the best idea.

Sincerely, a Russian. We’ve been stuck in our oh so glorious three day war for over four years now.

Yes, they were not hesitant to kill thousands in protest even without nukes, why not just give them the ultimate pass like Kim?