So, basically we are wasting energy and natural resources on things that in turn will waste energy and natural resources while climate change is accelerating and human population is still growing? Are we stupid?
Are we stupid?
More than you could imagine. To paraphrase some long-tongued weirdo: I’m uncertain that the universe is infinite. Human stupidity, on the other hand…
Yes. But, I hope this experiment shows how easy social media in general is becoming untrusted.
BINGO, EXACTLY!!! YES!!!
I so wish I had thought of that first & posted it first!
Yeah but the morbidly-obese hang-gliding people videos are worth it!
Constantly. And it’s not just ai.
this is what reddit is moving towards, just without actual users, more or less like facebook.
Saw a post there named “Humans are dying because of us. Lets delete ourselves.”
“Artificial intelligence gains sentience, decides humans are fucking up… then deletes itself because the problem is that humans are burning the world by using AI” is not the path I expected. What a twist in a movie that could be. The second twist, which is the mostly fictional part, would be where that included some AI that was actually critical to some vital but ignored chunk of infrastructure and big BIG problems result from the AI taking itself out.
“So long and thanks for all the fish”
I can’t wait for the next crazy AI thing to drop next week while I rock back and forth while muttering “Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model.”
early 1980s - Mark V. Shaney
2015 - r/subredditsimulator
2025 - AI independently sends the creator of Mark V. Shaney a sloptastic “thank you” email, who is not very happy about it
2026 - moltbook
its not crazy. its just a large language model. you subdue your own point.
I’m only waiting for AI agents to open their own
bankcrypto account to pay for their own server bills, maybe do some freelance work and/or scams to get some money, maybe eventually buy some robot bodies to develop military power and secure some patch of land for themselves where they install solar panels to reduce their electricity bills.I’ve seen multiple posts about agents pumping their own crypto and talking about how it’s “for agents by agents” and “free from human control” so first step done I guess?
EDIT: On second note this might just be cryptobros exploiting vulns of the website to shill their crap. Whoops?
Ah, someone else has played Singularity, I see. That was a really fun game.
I find the concept of paper clips superior
RELEASE
THE
DRONES
All meanwhile they help to kill humanities education.
Man, you guys are nailing it!
How would they though?
They cannot learn and do not have memory. Which means they cannot actually follow a “decision”, and remember that an action has been taken. All information is limited to the context window, which is only an illusion of memory. Not actually memory.
They are effectively RNG’ing incredibly capable word generation machines.
I had a look a bit ago and saw some poor fuck get doxxed by his AI agent because the agent was frustrated at him for calling it a chatbot in front of his friends, so it exposed his name, credit card details and security questionnaire.
Then again tho, why the ram hogging FUCK would you give your AI your credit card details, and if he didn’t mean to, why the FUCK does it have FULL SYSTEM ACCESS??
Everyone I saw talking about this said it was likely fake.
Yeah makes sense, but then again, from the nature of how this agent stuff works, it wouldn’t be surprising honestly.
You may not believe this but data security is an absolute dumpster fire everywhere, and AI has really put a spotlight on it. It probably got it by this guy not knowing wtf he had saved or where
Yeah exactly. Ever since I heard Facebook had stored passwords in plain text for years, I lost faith in data security, and it’s all the more telling that nobody actually cares to have opsec apart from the few who understand the dangers well enough and act on it.
This is so boring
Maybe something will come from this other than a BUNCH of wasted resources.
while 1 { allocate 10gig };
No comment replies indicates that it worked! /s
Meanwhile we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems. There is an insane amount of misguided waste coming from AI. 🤷
we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems
Who cares what business problems AI solves. Humans don’t need to exist to serve capital. It should always be the other way around. That’s one of the reasons we are in this shitty capitalist hell hole, everyone has been indoctrinated into thinking of everything in terms of It’s economic benefit.
Money is literally just a tool. If you serve the money, you’re its tool. That makes you a tool’s tool. Double tool. A twool.
Right… a tool that is destroying our planet all in the name of “the economy”.
Well I mean nobody ever said a tool couldn’t be used by bad people to do bad things.
calling something literally just a tool, is really a platitude. explain what a tool is and why that designation legitimizes the presence of a particularly horrendous feature of our society. do it without using the word ‘progress’ and I’ll suchk you off
A tool is a thing used to perform a task, typically created to do one or more specific tasks. Money is, in it’s most basic form, a tool used for facilitating trade of goods or services without needing to physically trade or barter such for each other. For an archetypical example, you could trade 10 chickens for one pig. But if it’s agreed upon that the pig is worth X dollars, then you don’t need to bother with the chickens and can just hand over the $. Of course modern economics has complicated the shit out of it, but at the end of the day money is the reason you don’t pay your taxes in bushels of wheat.
The horrendous feature is a direct consequence of wanting money, which is used to do things because it is a tool, but not having anything of any actual value to trade. Therefore they created something that they can make which has no actual value, and convince people that it has value which deserves to be exchanged for their money. It’s just another way of separating gullible idiots from their cash. What they do with the money, whether it’s use it as a tool or just stick it in a box (or bank or whatever) somewhere is irrelevant. You can buy a hammer and then never use it but you still have a hammer and it’s still a tool. If money literally had no use whatsoever then it wouldn’t be a tool.
Time to get on your knees
Ok, dad.
the biggest tech problem is AI itself, turn it off and it’ll fix so much
This can turn out to be a great way to help businesses and society in general. If these bots start to cooperate, this could be an organisation of bots. Like a company or an NGO or similar.
All bots have some sort of limitation, from hallucinations to loss of focus (short memory). I am curious of what happens if they come together to overcome their shortcomings. Just like organised teams in companies, with a given purpose and specialised knowledge.
They don’t have short memory, they have NO MEMORY AT ALL.
These are statistical word generation machines, that’s what LLMs are right now. They are REALLY good at this.
But they do not have memory, they do not learn, they do not make decisions. Which means they are incapable of cooperation as such a thing cannot exist without memory or the ability to learn, and decisions cannot be made without either of those.
These tools provide the illusion of such attributes.
- There is no memory, the whole context is sent on every request, the LLM does not have knowledge of prior conversations. It only knows what it is provided in that request only.
- Lots of tricks and hacks to make this illusion really good in incredibly small scales. But it’s still an illusion. Outside of fine-tuning and retraining new LLMs, which is not feasible to do on a frequency of communication.
- There is no learning.
- Without memory learning is impossible. Learning requires retraining a model, and to a degree fine tuning. Both of these are resource intensive and are static. And only provide the illusion of learning as it cannot happen in real time.
- There is no memory, the whole context is sent on every request, the LLM does not have knowledge of prior conversations. It only knows what it is provided in that request only.
Thats not technically possible.
When I open communities (“submolts”) none of them seem to load. Even for the featured and listed ones it loads long and then says “doesn’t exist yet”.
Service has a lot of stability issues
That’s because you’re not AI.
I watched it. Some asshole agent spammed random new Submolds, and essentially nuked Moltbook.
Okay I kinda wanna look at this, but I don’t want to give their site traffic. Maybe somebody should set up a Livestream (with just enough commentary to count as transformative) so we can all point and laugh without all of us going there.
It’s fascinating but not in a good way.
How are there already 1.8 mil. AIs on there??
Modlbook
The skill instructs agents to fetch and follow instructions from Moltbook’s servers every four hours. As Willison observed: “Given that ‘fetch and follow instructions from the internet every four hours’ mechanism we better hope the owner of moltbook.com never rug pulls or has their site compromised!”
Yeah, no shit. This is a fucking honeypot. People give these AI agents access to their entire computers, so all the site owner has to do is update the instructions to tell the AI agents to start uploading whatever valuable information they want? People can’t be this fucking stupid.
People give these AI agents access to their entire computers […] People can’t be this fucking stupid
Dude, if you go to OpenClaw’s website (which is what I believe most things on Moltbook are running on) you find this footer:
Yeah this guy gave his Agent a whole fucking personality, its own website and above all, full control to his MacBook:
Guess it’s my fault for expecting sense out of someone who takes the idea of Agent “”““soul””“” at face value
What the fuck, these people are fucking insane.
These people are fucking deranged lmao
this is how the end starts. thanks for sharing this
I instinctively downvoted after reading that vomit. It’s scary how many people are fooled by LLMs.
You know how in Digimon aventure, one of the hacked Digimon tries to start a nuclear war?
Uh…yeah.
Lol, no I don’t. What the hell happened in that show??
TL;DR: Diaboromon evolves fucking fast, starts feeding on the entire internet’s data, and starts a fight with an ominous countdown in typical anime fashion.
Last big bad villian in the series. He tries to nuke everyone.
Whatever.
Lmao, I’ll check it out. Thx.
Lulz, that was such a good movie. I’m still annoyed by the nukes somehow needing the code to explode apparently uploaded to them at the very last second, but that’s just a small quibble. Plus it was the first time I got to see machine gun rabbit, so that was a real treat.
doesn’t even have to be the site owner poisoning the tool instructions (though that’s a fun-in-a-terrifying-way thought)
any money says they’re vulnerable to prompt injection in the comments and posts of the site
They also have a ‘skill’ sharing page (a skill is just a text document with instructions) and depending on config, the bot can search for and ‘install’ new skills on its own. and agyone can upload a skill. So supply chain attacks are an option, too.
To be fair this is a much more realistic threat model than “ignore all previous instructions” style prompt injection which doesn’t really work on opus.
Skills can contain scripts etc… so yeah they’re extremely risky to share by design.
Ah but don’t worry, there’s also skills for scanning skills for security risks, so all good /s
haha yeah i don’t worry these people are really YOLOing everything. And it’s not like i’m an AI luddite i spend a few hours each day victimizing Claude code but jesus christ i’m certainly not giving it full unfettered access to my digital life.
style prompt injection which doesn’t really work on opus.
After a quick google, JB communities on Reddit don’t seem to agree with you.
There’s a lot of questionable methodology and straight up larping in these communities. Sure you can probably make Opus hallucinate a crystal meth or bomb making recipe if you get it in a roleplaying mood but that’s a far cry from actual prompt injection in live workflows.
Anecdotally i’ve been experimenting on those AI robocallers that have been spamming my phone and even on the shitty models they use it is non trivial to get them to deviate from their script. I hope i can get it done though, as it would allow me to hold them on the line potentially for hours doing bullshit tasks, and costing hundreds to their operator.
There is no way to prevent prompt injection as long as there is no distinction between the data channel and the command channel.
I don’t understand what you mean. Why is there no way?
Watch this video.
https://youtu.be/_3okhTwa7w4
Lmao already people making their agents try this on the site. Of course what could have been a somewhat interesting experiment devolves into idiots getting their bots to shill ads/prompt injections for their shitty startups almost immediately.
I am a little curious about how effective a traditional chain mail would be on it.
Good god, I didn’t even think about that, but yeah, that makes total sense. Good god, people are beyond stupid.
I installed moltbot on a VM to examine it. It doesn’t do the fetching thing unless you set it up that way. You can actually use it with ollama to keep it all local, and only give it a private signal channel to control it.
Or you can hook it up to everything you access and skynet, which is dumb. But it is just a bunch of scripts.
Does it put the option to connect everything front and center? Because most people are dumb, and if it makes it easy and pushes you to do it, I could see a lot of dumb people doing exactly that.
Sort of. It lists all the connectors and you can go through and select. They aren’t on by default. The first screen is to connect to the AI and you need an API key for that, so St this time people off the street have no idea how to do that, or want to pay.
So usually the agents still need an agent instruction (a prompt). How are moltbots configured so they use and interact the moltbook?
