I don’t read r/conservative much but what I’ve seen is they keep banning actual conservatives because they correctly call out what Trump is doing on things where it’s not about left and right but right and wrong.
Some people are saying that it could be coincidental. OP asks why would the two accounts who post so regularly just happen to both stop at the same time on that day.
Conservatives need brand new online communities that do not push them farther into the brain rot. Seriously are there any good online communities for them still around?
American conservativism is already inherently contradictory. Conservativism as a political movement emerged in Europe in response to the emergence of liberalism. Liberalism is anti-monarchy. Conservatism is pro-monarchy. US conservativism is anti-monarchy, pro-market, pro-private property - all of these positions are liberal positions. American conservativism is liberalism.
So to adopt the label of conservative in America you already have to be ignorant of political philosophy, history, and the meaning of words that you use on a daily basis, and you have to be living out a full contradiction of political views. Or you have to be in the grifter elite that does understand this and use it as a way to fleece people.
The people who stay in the American conversative are under such psychology strain from the cognitive dissonance that they absolutely have to have purity tests to keep any challenge to their narratives out of their zones.
You are aware that it is not the 19th century anymore? Political groups and ideologies change and are different through time and between countries.
So conservativism became liberalism?
No, sorry. There are still conservatives in the world, mostly in Europe, mostly where monarchs are still in place like the UK. Conservatism is alive and well with its original meaning. Yes it has evolved. No it hasn’t evolved into its direct contradiction.
Only in America did some liberals decide to label themselves conservative as a way of creating an openly contradictory position from which to manage the electorate. Their PR is phenomenal because they claim to not be liberal but argue for private property, individual freedom, unregulated markets, and small government. Literally the definition of liberalism, but somehow, not liberals!
It boggles the fucking mind.
The meaning of words change over time. Conservative, in the American political context, has nothing to do with Monarchy. You are being pointlessly pedantic
Nope. Sorry. That’s not what happened.
It’s literally completely artificial PR from the political-business elite and has absolutely nothing to do with organic evolution of language. Conservatism is the US is literally liberalism. The word Conservative still means monarchist in the rest of the Anglo world, because the rest of the Anglo world is still deeply connected to their Commonwealth history.
In the US, red scare propagandists hand in hand with business elite who wanted to maximize profits and destroy worker rights took an existing term and defined it with Orwellian doublespeak, literally saying “we’re not liberals” when very obviously to everyone educated in politics they absolutely were liberals and still are.
That’s an oxymoron as conservatism is already a brain rot
Yup because they’re anti education.
I feel like “conservatism” has lost all rationality. I do get that it’s totally possible that “not rocking the boat” could be a good solution to society’s progress for some niches but 99% of the time it’s absolutely irational.
In fact, most conservative issues like “traditional family unit”, “gun freedom” are better approached through progressive frame like incentives to celebrate local culture and protecting human rights like rights to self defence - these are fundamentally progressive thoughts that actually solve the issue in a real meaningful way rather than just hiding behind in-action.
I really try to understand conservatism as a thought movement but there seems to be no actual thought behind it. I genuinely don’t get it.
It looks contradictory but there is logic to it. They want hierarchies, just like there was before - where Christian white men are on top and everyone else has no rights. Those are the “traditional values” they want to uphold. If you filter everything through that lens, their actions start to make sense. Technically this isn’t called conservatism (since this isn’t about a monarchy), but that’s the label they gave it.
But that’s not conservatism per se, it’s just fascism
The problem is they like the brain rot. It would be like taking away booze from an alcoholic. It can only be done if they accept they have a problem.
i would wager that these quickly get perverted