• piyuv@lemmy.world
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    Society wouldn’t collapse because those people would be imprisoned.

    Society would collapse because it’d become apparent, without a doubt, that those in power cannot be imprisoned.

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      those in power cannot be imprisoned.

      This just sounds like business as usual.

      I can see a continued/exacerbated erosion of faith in various institutions, and a corresponding use of state violence to maintain the status quo, but without a serious (well organized, with mass support) alternative, the current ruling class will stay in power and nothing will change dramatically. We’ll just continue along the downward spiral, same as before.

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      because it’d become apparent, without a doubt, that those in power cannot be imprisoned.

      They absolutely can…

      The people who won’t do their jobs, are not doing their jobs because of a personal risk assessment. Maybe they’d go down too, maybe they wouldn’t get a bribe that substantially increases their quality of life.

      But every person enabling this shit, is doing it because it’s “safer” for them.

      We change what they decide to do by making it “safer” for them to do the right thing. Either passively by keeping them safe and secure after doing the right thing. Or giving them a credible fear of what happens if no one gets held accountable.

      The French royal guard was full of people willing to die for the royal family, right up until members of the French royal guard were killed for getting between a guillotine and a royal.

      Because their risk/reward math changed.

      It’s not even human nature, single cell organisms are doing it constantly. It’s the most basic question for biological life, and why intelligence even evolved: “Is this reward worth the risk?”

      Besides…

      Society would collapse

      The instant a “society” collapses, a new society is there. It’s like “weather” we can say the weather changes, but it never goes away. What cames after might be better or worse, but there’s never just nothing.

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      Society wouldn’t collapse because the American people wouldn’t do shit. We celebrate protests for having zero arrests: we are not willing to escalate.

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      Releasing the files wouldn’t mean those powerful people would be imprisoned either. The US is a pedocracy, it protects people like them and rewards them with money and power.