I am genuinely trying to get better at art. I’m not there yet (likely never will be), the lying machine is still better than me.

The context:

This is my sketch.

And this is what the ai output.

I like to think I poured my heart and soul into it. I know there are people who will tell me that I’m terrible for using ai at all. I’m also sorry if this is the wrong community to ask this question (ask reddit would delete my post instantly if I tried to post there).

Again, is this slop? I am not an artist. I drive a forklift real good, that’s my skillset. So if I were to use the ai upscaled version for my book, well, I’m asking for opinions.

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    Ok, let’s train the data on millions of credit cards. It isn’t just mine. Am I fine with sharing the weighted statistical result? Sure.

    And like anything else, a sale to this person is never a loss to another artist. It doesn’t work that way. Which is why I said they need to say they used digital AI tools, and not lie and said they didn’t.

    I will commsion an artist, but if it’s digital I wouldn’t.

    And like the guitar analogy, anything made by AI is not a copy of the original, see credit card example above.

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      The credit card was to make you understand that even though no one owns math that doesn’t mean that all information should be free. You’re refusing to tell me your credit card numbers or even what you do for a living, this proving that you’re either a hypocrite or don’t truly believe that ALL information should be free.

      Someone paying for art from someone who’s not an artist is definitely a loss for the artist who would have gotten hired instead. The fact that you’re even refusing to acknowledge this simple fact proves just how up your own ass you are.

      Then don’t commission digital art, completely your prerogative, but the artist that does digital art is an artist, the person prompting an LLM is not. If you use digital art to make a profit you should have the rights for it, and a person who prompted an LLM can’t because they don’t own the training data, nor any derivation from it.

      For the music, go and record chunks from several different music to see if you won’t get the same result, which is essentially what an LLM is doing with other people’s art.

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        No, you are changing the rules: it is not my credit card number, it is a mathematical representation. It isnt my art, it is a conglomeration of all art.

        I am 100 percent behind the idea that if you make a drawing, it is yours. Not mine. But if I sketch a similar one based on yours because I saw it, this new result is mine.

        The information is free, the original is also intact.

        Also, a AI made art is not going to stop someone from buying from some one else. I buy from artists I know that have something so say. A different artist AI or not has no influence on my purchase from the ones I like.