I think that’s something a lot of right wing people struggle to comprehend.
Left wing violence is targeted toward those who would do us harm, i.e. Nazis. It’s self defence.
Right wing violence is targeted toward those who they believe is causing harm. In their minds it’s the same justification, self defence.
The difference is you can choose to be intolerant or not, you can choose to treat others with kindness or not, you can choose to be a Nazi or not. You can’t choose whether you’re gay, black, trans, disabled, Jewish, whatever form of “other” they have chosen.
Obviously there’s also the fact that being “other” isn’t harmful in any way. But that’s a separate rabbithole of delusion that needs tackled.
they think we are driven by the same fears as them and that these fears are universal to the human experience rather than them not confronting and processing their traumas
I don’t even believe it’s traumas. Most hatred is born from lack of experience and therefore empathy. The trauma they claim is usually fantasy, to feed into the mentality that they are right to be afraid. Like the whole oppressed Christian rhetoric I was fed at an early age, it doesn’t exist in the US. Pray to the guy on the cross, I won’t stop you. Just don’t him as an excuse for causing harm to others. You can practice your religion, but it shouldn’t stop others from living their lives without fear or harm.
But Christians have been using him as an excuse for violence since they were Jews, probably because he was said to be so violent (per his own words and Revelation, in which he is downright murderous)
It’s always morally correct to beat the shit out of Nazis. And if they don’t like that, they can always stop being Nazis.
I think that’s something a lot of right wing people struggle to comprehend.
Left wing violence is targeted toward those who would do us harm, i.e. Nazis. It’s self defence.
Right wing violence is targeted toward those who they believe is causing harm. In their minds it’s the same justification, self defence.
The difference is you can choose to be intolerant or not, you can choose to treat others with kindness or not, you can choose to be a Nazi or not. You can’t choose whether you’re gay, black, trans, disabled, Jewish, whatever form of “other” they have chosen.
Obviously there’s also the fact that being “other” isn’t harmful in any way. But that’s a separate rabbithole of delusion that needs tackled.
they think we are driven by the same fears as them and that these fears are universal to the human experience rather than them not confronting and processing their traumas
I don’t even believe it’s traumas. Most hatred is born from lack of experience and therefore empathy. The trauma they claim is usually fantasy, to feed into the mentality that they are right to be afraid. Like the whole oppressed Christian rhetoric I was fed at an early age, it doesn’t exist in the US. Pray to the guy on the cross, I won’t stop you. Just don’t him as an excuse for causing harm to others. You can practice your religion, but it shouldn’t stop others from living their lives without fear or harm.
But Christians have been using him as an excuse for violence since they were Jews, probably because he was said to be so violent (per his own words and Revelation, in which he is downright murderous)
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So you’re saying a racist bigot is disabled? That hatred and violent behavior is inherent and unchangeable? I’m missing the point I think here.
Nah, what he’s saying is that assholes would try to turn the argument around by saying that the oppressed could also stop being the thing
I so want to go back to a wave of media about brutal violence towards Nazis.
Sure, put in a moral dilemma. A little “Is it really okay for us to be doing this?” Just certify that the answer is YES.
Why did this get downvotes
The nazis don’t realize they aren’t anonymous on Lemmy
That second sentence is why I’m against just killing them. Beat them until they grow but you don’t need to just kill people
Sure they can stop being nazis but their victims can’t stop being dead. Stop the threat first and foremost.
You can give them the opportunity but the moment they refuse to take it then you do what needs doin to protect those around you from them.
Yeah you don’t need to kill them. Just mark them for life like the one guy at the end of Inglorious Bastards.